LSU Jonno

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Cost per Launch Artemis II $2–4+ billion (very high due to expendable nature & program structure) Starship: Current estimates $100M+; long-term goal <$10M

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You are comparing empirical numbers to projections. That never pans out. Plus you are comparing apples and potatoes.


Cost per launch isn’t a valid metric. Cost per mission is the metric.

A moon mission currently takes 1 SLS launch plus some number of Starship Launches. SpaceX originally estimated 7 starship launches to get to the moon. I think their official number is now 10-12. Some estimates have it at 20+ launches (that is not a joke).

Let’s split the difference…

Moon mission cost:
1x SLS+Orion at $2B
Plus
15x Staships at 100million each or $1.5B

Total cost = $3.5B


SpaceX is great, but let’s not pretend that the ship that was promised to us 2 years ago that has blown up time and time again and has yet to reach orbit is our savior just yet. Remember this, Starship hasn’t gotten to the hard part of their mission yet.

Hydrogen is the highest performing rocket fuel on the planet. It makes sense for moon missions.

If y’all haven’t listened to the podcast “13 minutes to the moon” it’s excellent.

Season 1 talks about Apollo 11 (with a single episode on Apollo 8 which is largely the same mission as Artemis 2). Season 2 is on Apollo 13, which is great but everyone knows that story. Season 3 is on Shuttle.

Direct from China (DHgate) isn’t an option for Christmas regardless. Can take up to 8 weeks to ship

It's not like there is a big market for putting payloads in Mars orbit. This feat has more to do with payloads than launch providers.

You don’t need a karaoke machine. Just pull up YouTube on your tv and search for any song and add karaoke to the end of it. Then you just need mics and a speaker.

I use an AppleTV and play songs on Apple Music in lyrics mode. Works great. When the new IOS drops this year you’ll be able to use your iPhone as a mic.

I have a flat top, a pellet smoker and a Webber kettle.

That 3-piece setup can tackle pretty much any job, including quick week-night burgers/chicken whatever.

I don’t miss my gas grill one bit, in-fact I’ll never own one again.


Do your own research on brands, but this combo is tough to beat.

You should really play around with an M4 MacBook Pro. Most of this software is a subscription anyway, so it doesn’t cost as much to swap over as you think.

I do video and photo editing as well and swapped to an M1 MacBook Pro when they first came out and haven’t looked back. I have a docking station for it so I can go mobile or use a bigger screen.

Regardless of what you go with you will probably want 32GB of RAM. Maybe more if you do a lot of 4K video.

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Yesterday I learned that there are THREE levels of spark/boost when drifting through turns, now. MK8 only had Blue & Orange. Now there's a multi color after orange for max boost, it seems.

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I got some news podnah, I think 3 levels of drift have been in Mario Kart since N64. Certainly there in MK8.

I think they are cranking them out as fast as they can. Bloomberg is predicting they’ll have the largest launch sales ever, which is really just a measure of how many units they could produce.