Kang of Memphissippi

But that’s what his southern Baptist preacher told him

We pay their enemies to have peace with them. That is how they got peace with Egypt. It is the premise of the Abraham accords

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I have a feeling you wouldnt like what that may look like.

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Why? You think I’m pro Muslim or a staunch human rights activist? I’m not. I don’t care what they do, I just can’t stand hypocrisy and us propping them up for one reason while claiming we are against others for the same reasons

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And they have a badass military and nukes. They can exist on their own.

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They certainly can, but if we were not funding their military and bribing their neighbors it would force them to be much more cautious with their foreign affairs. They operate currently under the premise we will back up anything they do.

I’d love for them to be responsible for their own actions and I think they would adopt admirable policies quickly in that position.

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Every political state is “man made”.

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Sure. But typically it has been taken by force by the people who created it. In some ways I respect the Zionists and what they were able to accomplish over time with deceitful methods, but you have to call it what it is. And the Palestinians got fricked.


-Wealthy European Jews bought land from the Ottoman Empire
-Zionists obtain undue influence in British wartime government during WWI, Balfour declaration makes vague statement saying Jews are welcome there without any means or plan.
-British basically renege on it, Zionists Jew who make up about 10% of Palestinian population at the time, create terrorist cells to attack British occupiers and Palestinian locals to force international attention.
-After WW2, UN declares partition plan. Gives Zionist Jews 58% of land even though they only make up 10-20% of population and land ownership. Zionists of course agree and begin violently driving out locals

The last point above point is what is always lost on the people who say “the Palestinians were offered peace/two state solution X year and refused!”

Well yeah they refused, they got lied to continually by the British for years about the intentions of the Zionists, got hosed on the original partition which gave the small minority Jews disproportionately more territory. Why would they accept those terms? And now they have been getting squeezed harder and harder since, to where they are just bitter and irrational people.

Israel needs to just give Gaza and West Bank to the Palestinians for real. Actual complete sovereignty, and if at that point they are attacked then the gloves can come off. But they cannot continue to occupy defacto prisons into perpetuity.

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Do we also get to dictate Chinese policy?

Who do we not give money to?

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What foreign aid are we sending to China?

And we send more to Israel than anyone except for Ukraine for the past couple of years. We have been sending the most to Israel for decades

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you don’t get to dictate what Israel does?

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Then why do we provide them with billions in aid every year as we have been doing for decades? Not to mention paying each of their neighbors billions to not attack them.

I think that warrants dictating their policies to an extent until they wean themselves

Modern Israel is evil

I am 33 now and just plan to work until I die because you boomers ruined the country. How’s that for selfish?