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re: This announcer?

Posted by brad8504 on 5/15/25 at 7:30 pm
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Totally get that. Was just asking who he was!


Totally get that he’s new? Yet you called him terrible and said he sucks…

I assume you were flawless in everything new to you.
I’ll probably get flamed, but Tito’s and coconut water with a lime wedge over crushed ice in a 24 oz. tumbler.

re: Mississippi St. 8 @ LSU 17 Final

Posted by brad8504 on 3/29/25 at 7:46 pm
The amount of cheap entertainment in these threads never gets old.
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This^^ is correct according to most Documentaries.


What do documentaries and scholarly articles offering scientific data have in common?


You can pay someone enough to push through the bullshite you want pushed through.

See COVID vaccines.

re: Canada doesn't need US anymore

Posted by brad8504 on 3/6/25 at 7:13 pm
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Burger looks like shite


It is grass fed.
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What is Musk’s actual position? What is his formal job title?


“Hitler! Nazi!”

—Libs
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They don’t understand that there is no such thing as a non GMO crop.


Exactly. And they don’t understand it’s a necessity.
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You don't think these cows are getting the covid vaccines it sounds like?


No. I don’t see them administering a COVID vaccine to cattle in hopes of transmitting it to humans.

I really think the war on GMO crops and vaccinated/implanted livestock is blown way out of proportion.

We vaccinate against blackleg (Clostridium chauvoei) the second that calf hits the ground.

They also get shots for Bovine Respiratory Synctial Virus (BRSV), parainfluenza, Bovine Viral Diarrhea (BVD), etc.

The growth hormone they receive has less estrogen than the ice cream in your freezer. There’s a lot of misconceptions out there about vaccines and growth hormones, but there’s a withdrawal period for any animal that has medicine administered to it (usually 28 days), and if we get caught with one in a packing plant, we’re getting blackballed from selling to them.

I haven’t bought meat from a grocery store in over 10 years, and I see the animals we consume daily. I know what goes into it at the producer level, and I’m not bothered by it.
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I'm on the pipeline engineering side. I sub out all the CP and E&I work.


We typically sub out a lot of our big projects for, just as you mentioned, liability reasons. But, as technicians, we oversee the work and once complete, we maintain it and troubleshoot. I don’t know shite about HVAC, but they pushed us through training to obtain my 608 certificate. We sub all of that out anyway, but at least I can buy refrigerant for my house, if needed.
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We do that for liability reasons.


I can respect that, but given the above example, we could’ve saved 2 hours of discussion had they just listened to me.

Strip heaters do not have significant inrush current. These heaters are on or off. No rheostat. Just an RTD input, and an output to the line side of the breaker.

That is what baffled me.

I’ll give it a rest. This thread just stirred up some old frustrations.

On a positive note, the one I’m working with now has been super cool to work with. He has actually allowed me to install things as I see practical on our current project, and he’s actually coming out to the site next week.

One of the things I really like is the attention to detail he brings. This dude has pulled up 25 years’ worth of weather data to help make decisions, whereas some just find the cheapest option and run with it.

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I had a site supervisor who will give a prospective engineer or electronic technician hire during the interview a written quiz and the first question was "What is Ohm's Law?" You would be surprised how many Electrical Engineers and Electronic Techs would not answer correctly. If the prospective hire did not answer correctly they were not even considered.


Some good follow-up questions would be, what remains constant across all resistors in a series circuit? What remains constant across all resistors in a parallel circuit?

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Lesson number one of being an engineer is listen to the people who are working with whatever it is. App Users, Pilots, Maintainers etc... Whoever is familiar with it knows more about whats going on than the Engineer does. If you didn't design it and you aren't using it, don't assume you know what's going on. Gain Data, Investigate, then form theories.



I’m glad you said that. Because although his knowledge of what black magic is going on inside some of the processors and drivers we have is way beyond my comprehension, these drawings are 15 years old. My thought is he’s new, he trusted the as-built drawings, and he assumed it probably needed a deep dive.

I enjoy the discussions with most of them because I learn a lot. The ones I don’t enjoy are usually because of a snarky attitude or a lot of resistance towards our input.
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What type of Engineers were they?


Electrical…

We also covered Watt’s Law during one of the interactions.

I contested that the electrical drawing was wrong. 480V, 15A breaker supplying a 240V, 40A breaker did not add up. It needed to be a 20A breaker on the 480 side, and it kept tripping throughout the year at random times.

They argued it was inrush current on strip heaters with FLA’s of 1A inside the 240V control box. 4 heaters on a 6A breaker. The 6A breaker never tripped throughout all of this. It happened during winter and summer (when heaters never turned on).

So they assumed it may be the fans. Then they questioned some of the resistors in a few circuits. We went through Ohm’s Law together to verify they were correct.

After two hours, there was a pause. I showed them the math:

9600W = 480V x 20A

9600W = 240V x 40A

Switched out the 15 for a 20 and haven’t had a trip since.

Shocking, I know.
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Tell me…how many times have you needed to review Ohm’s Law with an Electrical Engineer?


You’d be surprised. Twice within the past 9 months, Ohm’s Law and the law of conservation of energy have come into play.

Probably a dozen times over the years.

So not the “hundreds” you were probably hoping for, but still. Most of the issues are simple mistakes made by greenhorns. The recent ones make we wonder sometimes. They’re sharp guys and super great to work with, but another trait engineers have that irks me is they over analyze problems that require simple solutions.
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What's the full name of the career? What sort of technician?


Electrical tech for a pipeline.

We do mechanic work and any other tasks associated with typical plant operator work. And flagging the line of course.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to review Ohm’s Law with an engineer to avoid going down a rabbit hole and wasting time and money changing parts that have zero bearing on the issue.
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How do you know this? Do technicians respond to 20-40 complaints/problems per day? Maybe they do.


We’re on-call 24/7. Expected to respond to anything within 90 miles within two hours—sometimes further depending on the severity. We work in any weather.

We deal with more people than I’d care to deal with, and we have our own unique problems and conflicts. Oftentimes, if something doesn’t get done, management thinks we’re the problem. Efficient processes get ruined because we’re always creating bullshite positions for people who come up with their own “efficiency models,” and more often than not, they don’t last long; however, they disrupt everything in the process.

We don’t get near the respect we should get, but when it comes to job security, we’re in a good position. It’s not glamorous and it’s seldom rewarding, but we truly keep the lights on.
I LOL’d

As a lowly technician, apparently a peasant, I’ve seen a great deal of engineering blunders over two decades.

I just laugh, watch it fail, fix it, and move onto the next cluster frick.

I guess I should thank them for job security.
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Originally Broin named for the family of large family owned farm in Minnesota who began pushing and lobbying for ethanol in the 1980's. Also, Newtron's major financial backer for years.


Yep. I’m in no way an advocate for ethanol usage. I’m pretty indifferent on it. I don’t like the federal mandate, and I’ve always believed consumers should dictate things—like EVs.

Rural areas in the Midwest can benefit from ethanol production, and the co-products certainly help diversify companies making ethanol. But we don’t have the infrastructure for EVs, nor any practical need to invest heavily in them.

So, on a local/regional scale, it has its place. Like I said, it’d be nice to see more refineries being built.