Fullmonty
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re: 50-18
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/25/25 at 4:13 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Somewhere around page 85 someone said I had permission to call you all bitches if he stayed. I haven't forgot.
re: 50-18
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/25/25 at 4:10 pm to Pickle_Weasel
BTW that is me on the right. :lol:
re: 50-18
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/25/25 at 4:08 pm to Pickle_Weasel
But is it true? or does it matter? :lol:
You should see what I have to deal with in the luxury suites :lol: :pimp:
Everyone made fun of me when I had a mental breakdown post Arkansas 2015.
Everyone made fun of me when I had a mental breakdown post Arkansas 2015.
IDK about the coach- maybe an up and comer like Freeze of Kiffin who has potential but where we have leverage to write a ball busting contract if someone starts sniffing his arse.
As for the rest of your post - No you are not wrong and you make really excellent points. We probably have no better options.
I do think if we keep winning we should stay in negotiation mode. While it is shortsighted on their part, at some point LSU/Florida will cut and run. Lane is a bad hombre but he wins and I am a wanton slut with no shame when it comes to winning and sex. I would take him back with legs spread wide. :lol:
As for the rest of your post - No you are not wrong and you make really excellent points. We probably have no better options.
I do think if we keep winning we should stay in negotiation mode. While it is shortsighted on their part, at some point LSU/Florida will cut and run. Lane is a bad hombre but he wins and I am a wanton slut with no shame when it comes to winning and sex. I would take him back with legs spread wide. :lol:
re: So, who do we get?
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/25/25 at 2:10 pm to Henry Jones Jr
The only thing we are missing to accomplishing that is the buyout number.
I don't think this is the only thing but it has to be a big thing.
I don't think this is the only thing but it has to be a big thing.
re: So, who do we get?
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/25/25 at 2:08 pm to Pickle_Weasel
I get it - I'm old enough to remember Wingnut leaving, but these are two totally different scenarios. Tubby left because our AD at that time sucked and was a penny pincher and wouldn't invest in the program. Keith is a different animal and hasn't been afraid to spend money.
LOL I am Tuberville certified as well. I go back to the Dog years featuring DC Joe Lee Dunn, (I loved that man). But the Norms of the world don't know or care if we had a shitty AD with no vision when Tubbs left.
The issue I have with your assertion is that you are well informed and sentimentally invested. Again the uninformed Norms are not going to care that "Ole Miss offered him everything that LSU/Florida offered, but he - due to his ego - chose to quit on his team[".
All that the uninformed Norms will know is that our coach was poached again and worse certain other informed trolls will just add it to the list of their taunts: pine box, "2003 co west champs", never been to SEC championship game etc.
Just painful
:violin: :lol:
LOL I am Tuberville certified as well. I go back to the Dog years featuring DC Joe Lee Dunn, (I loved that man). But the Norms of the world don't know or care if we had a shitty AD with no vision when Tubbs left.
The issue I have with your assertion is that you are well informed and sentimentally invested. Again the uninformed Norms are not going to care that "Ole Miss offered him everything that LSU/Florida offered, but he - due to his ego - chose to quit on his team[".
All that the uninformed Norms will know is that our coach was poached again and worse certain other informed trolls will just add it to the list of their taunts: pine box, "2003 co west champs", never been to SEC championship game etc.
Just painful
:violin: :lol:
re: So, who do we get?
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/25/25 at 12:36 pm to Pickle_Weasel
WTF I am not talking about firing Lane. While that would no doubt be on the list of options for Bama or Texas in the same situation, unfortunately that is not a realistic option for us at this time.
I am also not saying that there isn't a sympathy "perception [that] Lane is in the wrong and the bad guy if he leaves" and if your happy with that being the entire narrative then I don't know what to tell you.
IMO there is a more important perception to address which is that we are not just a farm team for coaches. We shouldn't be ok with that. IDK maybe I am concerned about nothing. I guess we will know for sure the next time we land a successful coach.
Depending on his leverage, I do think KC will have stronger "leave" penalties in the next contract which should also help with this issue to some degree.
I am also not saying that there isn't a sympathy "perception [that] Lane is in the wrong and the bad guy if he leaves" and if your happy with that being the entire narrative then I don't know what to tell you.
IMO there is a more important perception to address which is that we are not just a farm team for coaches. We shouldn't be ok with that. IDK maybe I am concerned about nothing. I guess we will know for sure the next time we land a successful coach.
Depending on his leverage, I do think KC will have stronger "leave" penalties in the next contract which should also help with this issue to some degree.
"I hear you but Alabama may really lose DeBoer to Penn State. Oklahoma lost Riley. Notre Dame lost Kelly. I believe Debo may move on from Clemson soon as well. It's not a sign of being a stepping stone. It's situational."
This is a good list and does on its face generally appear contrary to my basic assertion (excluding DeBoer b/c that isn't going to happen and Dabo who nobody really wants).
However, your potential valid examples of coaches (Riley and Kelly) voluntarily leaving "big programs" actually supports my point. Those exits both involved huge contracts from the destination program which the other programs were not willing to match. So from a perception stand point it minimized the damage, if any, to said programs reputations b/c it implied that those programs at least equally had a hand in the decision. (Not to mention in those cases it those programs already had an long established "big program" reputation which at the moment OM does not enjoy).
If Lane leaves, IMO it is imperative to the long term future of our program to project some level of control in that decision. The best thing I can think of is that he wasn't worth the money to us (maybe with a dash of he was an eradicate head case).
The projection of the perception that we are (or at least believe we are) in control is more important than who is the next coach. Otherwise, per my earlier post above, what is the point if every time we hire a coach who is successful he is poached by the perceived "bigger program". (I do not want to become Tulane or Memphis of the SEC).
Waling "oh why oh why would he want to leaving us " etc. etc. looks small and damages our reputation.
Take a lesson from Lane who trolled us for clapping after a "good effort" in a loss to Bama. He basically said F that we lost and there was nothing to clap about. If we are ever going to break through and truly contend then we need to move on from the "Mississippi Nice" mindset that has trapped us for 50 years.
So if Lane leaves we need to be prepared to aggressively advance the perception that we, not him, made or were at least part of that decision. In addition, the short list of coaches (however absurd) should be the top coaches in the country.
After all, according to some, we have everything a coach could possibly want including the money of any "big program" and the NIL program to die for. Why wouldn't Myers jump at the chance to coach here?
This is a good list and does on its face generally appear contrary to my basic assertion (excluding DeBoer b/c that isn't going to happen and Dabo who nobody really wants).
However, your potential valid examples of coaches (Riley and Kelly) voluntarily leaving "big programs" actually supports my point. Those exits both involved huge contracts from the destination program which the other programs were not willing to match. So from a perception stand point it minimized the damage, if any, to said programs reputations b/c it implied that those programs at least equally had a hand in the decision. (Not to mention in those cases it those programs already had an long established "big program" reputation which at the moment OM does not enjoy).
If Lane leaves, IMO it is imperative to the long term future of our program to project some level of control in that decision. The best thing I can think of is that he wasn't worth the money to us (maybe with a dash of he was an eradicate head case).
The projection of the perception that we are (or at least believe we are) in control is more important than who is the next coach. Otherwise, per my earlier post above, what is the point if every time we hire a coach who is successful he is poached by the perceived "bigger program". (I do not want to become Tulane or Memphis of the SEC).
Waling "oh why oh why would he want to leaving us " etc. etc. looks small and damages our reputation.
Take a lesson from Lane who trolled us for clapping after a "good effort" in a loss to Bama. He basically said F that we lost and there was nothing to clap about. If we are ever going to break through and truly contend then we need to move on from the "Mississippi Nice" mindset that has trapped us for 50 years.
So if Lane leaves we need to be prepared to aggressively advance the perception that we, not him, made or were at least part of that decision. In addition, the short list of coaches (however absurd) should be the top coaches in the country.
After all, according to some, we have everything a coach could possibly want including the money of any "big program" and the NIL program to die for. Why wouldn't Myers jump at the chance to coach here?
Most of that may be correct and a lot of that is speculation but none of that addresses the issue of program perception.
If he leaves then it would be in our interest if the narrative was that we made the final decision not him.
Coaches of upper tier SEC teams do not leave, they either retire or get shown the door with one respectable exception going to the NFL.
If he leaves then it would be in our interest if the narrative was that we made the final decision not him.
Coaches of upper tier SEC teams do not leave, they either retire or get shown the door with one respectable exception going to the NFL.
You are conflating two separate issues.
I think it is common knowledge that we have real money for a good coach.
The optics are bad if lane leaves when the same money was on the table and he was playoff bound. We can’t fire him so the best spin would be that he just wasn’t worth the Kirby level money.
Again implies that we (not Lane) made the decision.
Better than the narrative that everything was equivalent financially, he was playoff bound and he left anyway.
I think it is common knowledge that we have real money for a good coach.
The optics are bad if lane leaves when the same money was on the table and he was playoff bound. We can’t fire him so the best spin would be that he just wasn’t worth the Kirby level money.
Again implies that we (not Lane) made the decision.
Better than the narrative that everything was equivalent financially, he was playoff bound and he left anyway.
Then why did he leave? asking for a friend who has no dog in the fight.
To validate your suggested spin we would need to spend the same or more money as LSU for our next coach. That might work but what other coach would be worth that?
To validate your suggested spin we would need to spend the same or more money as LSU for our next coach. That might work but what other coach would be worth that?
Still in the fox hole.
But if he does leave it is in our best interest to spin this to make it all about the money that we were just not willing to pay kiffin. That implies that we made decision to let kiffin go and not that he left us.
If the story is, we offered Kiffin everything LSU/Florida offered him and he still left then very bad optics for rebel nation.
But if he does leave it is in our best interest to spin this to make it all about the money that we were just not willing to pay kiffin. That implies that we made decision to let kiffin go and not that he left us.
If the story is, we offered Kiffin everything LSU/Florida offered him and he still left then very bad optics for rebel nation.
If everyone thinks Kiffin is truly out the door then what is the point of all of this?
I mean if every time Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, State, South Carolina, Arkansas or Ole Miss hires a successful coach then big money Alabama, LSU, Florida, Texas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Auburn, Tennessee or Texas AM will just come take him whenever they want .This will happen over and over because at least one or more of those "big money" 9 are always going to be in "need" of a coach each year.
So finding the next right coach is just putting lipstick on a pig. :violin:
I mean if every time Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, State, South Carolina, Arkansas or Ole Miss hires a successful coach then big money Alabama, LSU, Florida, Texas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Auburn, Tennessee or Texas AM will just come take him whenever they want .This will happen over and over because at least one or more of those "big money" 9 are always going to be in "need" of a coach each year.
So finding the next right coach is just putting lipstick on a pig. :violin:
re: 50-18
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/24/25 at 1:39 pm to Jimmy Chestnut
If available, can someone please post a link to the press conference. I would like to watch it and can't find it.
"Can we pay Hugh Freeze version 1.0 just to give the pregame speech?"
Welling up to cry as I type, loved CHF version 1.0 . The only reason I thought Hugh 1.0 was better than Lane is I believed that he would never leave us (by choice).
Welling up to cry as I type, loved CHF version 1.0 . The only reason I thought Hugh 1.0 was better than Lane is I believed that he would never leave us (by choice).
"I would have no issue with him job shopping in secret "
Not true. :lol:
Not true. :lol:
"frick him [Lane]."
Exactly what we should keep doing for at least a few more years.
Exactly what we should keep doing for at least a few more years.
re: 50-18
Posted by Fullmonty on 11/24/25 at 10:30 am to OleVaught14
Just took a casual stroll this morning through CC Board, the LSU Coaching Official Thread, the Florida Official Coaching Thread, the latest articles from national media and even checked out the latest Vegas odds and SEC shorts (which btw is spot on for most OM fans).
Florida and LSU clearly beginning to sweat like two rats fricking in a wool sock.
:lol:
Project "Keep the Lane Train Rollin’ might just pan out for us, especially if we win the Egg Bowl. Good job KC.:bow:
Florida and LSU clearly beginning to sweat like two rats fricking in a wool sock.
:lol:
Project "Keep the Lane Train Rollin’ might just pan out for us, especially if we win the Egg Bowl. Good job KC.:bow:
This story certainly validates what many of our butt hurt fans feel.
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