bigdogger

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You’re barking up the wrong tree here. SEC is the best conference in the country

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Look I know where I am and don’t expect most people here to agree, and again, I still think the SEC is probably the best — I just think you guys underestimate teams like Iowa, Illinois, Maryland, etc.

When a good SEC team dickslaps Miss State or someone, ESPN and the narrative says “Wow what a good team, that’s impressive.”

When Michigan or OSU dickslaps Iowa or Maryland the narrative is “Wow Iowa is so bad” etc

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The rankings are put out by rivals of ESPN

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No they aren’t? ESPN has an outsized amount of affiliated reporters who vote in the AP poll. Do you know how polls work?

They also have exclusive rights (at least until playoff gets expanded maybe) to the CFP and thus the CFP poll

They also dominate sports talk “journalism” so their takes get repeated ad naseum

Regardless you’re ignoring my point. I’m not talking about the top teams like Bama or UGA — this year I thought UGA was definitely the #1 team and would win the championship again and Bama was clearly in that position a lot recently too

I’m talking about mid tier teams and rankings like from 10-25

Who cares if it’s taken out of context just laugh at the melt, they are legendary whiners

>Talking about CFP wins

You’re not unreasonable but I’d say again that when talking about CFP wins you’re talking mostly about Alabama then Georgia and one year with LSU

I give you, in general, the SEC is probably better overall but I think it’s overstated. My point is that the rest of the teams in the SEC seem to ride the coattails of Alabama or whoever is good that year. I don’t ride Ohio State, I hope they’re never good, I never root for them to win — and if they do win I don’t take that to mean the Big Ten is any worse or better overall, just that Ohio State is.

I guess my main point is lots of people talk shite about teams like Iowa or Indians or whoever, and I think a lot of mid SEC teams that, in my mind are basically the same as those programs, get inflated AP rankings/reputations which leads to people saying the SEC is so much better than the Big Ten — I really don’t buy it.

I’m not saying Alabama in recent past, Georgia now, or LSU with Burrow weren’t the best teams in the country, clearly you guys usually have *the* best team most years — it just annoys me that because one of the teams is the best at any given time, people attribute that to the conference as a whole — you’ll have teams like A&M or Ole Miss way up in the rankings because they played some good teams close, and then they lose to some other team and that team goes up in the rankings etc — it’s all circular

Georgia is going to dump truck OSU, they’re a good team but they’re all finesse and crumble the moment they face a team with decent physicality, which Georgia has in spades

Georgia will probably beat us in the championship game too, but hopefully it’s a better matchup than last year

We made OSU look soft and Georgia is just Michigan with better players. Hilarious to read the OSU cope “we are built to win against SEC teams” — if you get trampled by Michigan how can you stand a chance against Georgia?

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LSU is a better job than Michigan and they get better players.

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If you're talking pure football, I would definitely agree. Louisiana is a football hotbed and, from my understanding, the school is all in on the football program. Michigan, historically, has gotten its best players from Ohio and places like California.

However, Michigan is the all time winningest program, and the school itself is a top tier university with one of the largest endowments in the country. (Michigan, $17 billion -- for reference, LSU $1 billion, Notre Dame $18 billion, Northwestern $15 billion, Vanderbilt $10 billion, Alabama, $2 billion)

There is sometimes a disconnect between the University of Michigan and the football program, which can lead to frustration.

It just depends what you mean by "better" job. For example, I don't think Harbaugh would ever want to coach at LSU. Notre Dame is a similar program to Michigan, but Brian Kelly clearly did want to coach at LSU.