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People seem to think that there is a need to assign a percentage of guilt for an event. But that is not how guilt operates. Each individual is judged alone. Each is 100 percent guilty of a very serious wrong.

If I were at a conference in Corpus Christi or Laredo, I would definitely try the local food. In Austin, not so much.

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Yall really want absolute immunity for federal agents?

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Well this depends on the definition of the common but imprecise term.
In our early history, many federal personnel were harmed by state and local officials for simply doing their assigned jobs. Protections were created and Supreme Court rulings backed protections these up.
A particularly colorful example from 1890 was "In re Neagle" where a US Marshal shot and killed someone who was trying to kill a federal judge. The state of California charged him with murder, but the federal immunity was reaffirmed to preempt the state law, so his case was removed to federal court and eventually dismissed.
However, this man was and would be accountable to the federal system - had his actions been viewed as criminal in their jurisdiction.
So "total immunity" may not be without some level of accountability.
Seems almost necessary.

A friend of mine was from the family which owned the Hackberry station in Kingman, AZ.
Was an iconic stop on that route.
The old Corvette was amazing.
I would like to make a motorcycle ride on the whole route.

I prefer truly local first, Ace second and big box third.

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Is it because I said the officer is a dumbass for walking and standing in front of a vehicle driven by a clearly crazy person and that it 100% is against any training he's ever had? Because if that is a problem, well......

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The officer did not move to that position - the car turned while backing up which oriented him in that position. He did move, but that movement actually brought him closer to safety.
I do not see you as a douchebag for that error - especially since I thought the same thing until I had viewed several more videos.

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What you don’t do is hang out in the path of the vehicle while your partner is trying to extricate the driver excluding some severe exigencies.

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You make some points, but I see some things differently. You seem to view this as a patrolman would - rather than an investigator.
I think that the agent was video documenting the vehicle position from 360 degrees with intent to file obstruction charges and did not regard her as an immediate threat while doing so - until she reversed course by shifting to drive and hit the gas. This surprised him and he went from evidence collection to defensive actions. Threat recognition to shot delivery was necessarily very rapid.

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IMO she probably didn’t even see him due to her sensory system being overloaded.

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So you think that she put her car in drive without even looking where she would be going - while being told what to do by her S/O? That is possible - the agent's phone video is likely the best evidence on that point. But we both know that point is not really relevant. Her spinning wheels and orientation towards the agent puts this in the reasonable self defense category. And the event is in the federal jurisdiction.

The S/O's actions on the other hand could result in charges being filed against her. She is a large part of the causal chain.

Having said this, we are actually more in agreement than disagreement.

How many were stabbed, raped or otherwise victimized?

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Do you have a source for that? I hadn’t heard he’s in the hospital.

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What do you think?
I understand from several sources that he was taken to a hospital, but not sure of the extent of his injuries and whether he was kept. But after seeing this video or seeing the incident in person, ask yourself - if you were his supervisor would you have sent him to the hospital?
I know that I would have insisted on it.