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re: What is orange saying here?

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 5/9/25 at 9:39 am
I *think* he's saying:

1. China should open up their market to US products
2. It would be good for them
3. Closed markets don't work
The Goal here is to have Catholics supporting open borders politically.

With policy driven by a Pope who lives behind walls.

Thank God I’m not Catholic.
Anecdotal; but I met her by chance. (I live near her)

She is a very likeable person. Made an offhandedly remark that made us laugh.

Someone asked for a pic and apologized; she was very gracious about it. Put her stuff down and took the pic. Engaged people who approached her.
Came across as very authentic. Of course they were constituents; so take it for what it’s worth.
To me; flying is the best part of that sport.
They should fly.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 12:53 pm
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I think that ship has sailed.


Agree, it is admittance they wasted $millions of taxpayer money on a bad investigation/prosecution.

*Note: This is an opinion only, I have not checked trial transcripts; nor been provided with a cost of prosecution analysis. Please do not rely on this post. Please draw your own conclusions based on trial transcripts only. For entertainment purposes only*

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 12:31 pm
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That's great. I would recommend using more language like that.


So the recommendation is to use "more" of the language I've already been using? Got it.

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I'm simply asking you to not post made up things as if they are fact.


Use "in front of house" instead of "driveway", which I already admitted was a mistake. Got it.

quote:

I'm not taking it too seriously. I'm simply asking you to not post made up things as if they are fact. I don't understand why you think that's a crazy request


I'm certainly not going to fact check my memory against the trial transcripts before posting to a tigerdroppings thread; so again, feel free to skip over my posts. Or continue to have a weird boner for fact checking me.
Once again, I'm no expert and have freely admitted if I've made an error and; continually add qualifiers to my posts as noted above. Hope your day gets better man.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 11:00 am
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I don't mind you casually discussing the case, but you are posting things that aren't true as if you know them to be true. If you don't know something, that's fine, but don't act as if it's fact. I would skip over your posts if you were stating an opinion. But when you say things like "KR was in the driveway. Both sides testified to that." it confuses other people in this thread. You are stating something that is completely false. You literally just made that up.


I'll try and keep your rules in mind for future posts...
Sorry I used "In driveway" instead of "in front of the house". It does make a difference.

Here are some other quotes from my posts:
"I must have missed that"
"certainly open to interpretation"
"I'm guessing it was the defense.?"
"You seem to know it pretty well"

I clearly admit I'm a casual follower, that I'm guessing, that others know more...etc...
So please go pick a message board fight with someone else. A cursory review of my posts shows I'm clearly not claiming to be some expert on this trial and admit other know more about this.

Its an internet message board dude....I don't take it too seriously. Sorry you do.



re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 10:38 am
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You keep posting a lot of things as factual statements that aren't actually true.


And admit others follow it closely and admit if someone clarifies it for me.
I’m not a juror. I’m casually discussing a trial I’m interested in on a message board.
Feel free to skip over my posts.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 9:48 am
Didn't realize they had vehicle data of her going 24 mph in reverse, I must have missed that.

But I am also saying that:
Hitting a moving target (or stationary), who is presumably facing the car, at 24 mph, in reverse, on purpose, while drunk,.....
is a tough thing to do....

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 9:43 am
1 other thing for me, that is certainly open to interpretation:
Her crazy calls to him that morning definitely sounded real, emotional, and genuine.

She honestly came across as a (somewhat psycho) girlfriend who believed he was shacked up somewhere. Not someone who was calling to cover tracks.....

I think it was the prosecution who played those tapes, (Maybe defense?). But if anything for me they prosecution story MORE believable.

(I dont believe she hit him; BUT even if she did, she appeared to not know it)

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 9:37 am
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There isn't a single chance in hell that Karen, as many drinks as she is alleged to have had, drove in reverse for more than 30 feet, at 25 MPH, in a straight line and hit JOK. It's not plausible.


I grok'd it. Grok said the car would take about 60-65 feet in reverse to reach 25 mph. Petal to the metal.
Which is even more unbelievable.

I have a long driveway and always back in, I occasionally will get up to 10-15 mph..... (Before I have to slow down)
I honestly cant imagine 25mph....much less drunk.....

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/23/25 at 8:49 am
I'm guessing it was the defense.?
Based on memory; didn't the defense expert say the iOS version the prosecution tested was the wrong one?

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/22/25 at 8:19 pm
You seem to know it pretty well; thoughts on this…..
Another thing that bothered me is the sheer logistics. The defense never made a point out of it that I saw; but the logistics don’t make any sense:

1. KR was in the driveway. Both sides testified to that. Yet JOK was found at the complete other side of the yard.

Did he walk to the other side of the yard for no reason whatsoever; why would he be near the street at all? then….

2. KR, drunk as a skunk, backs out of the driveway and gets up to 25 mph in reverse and hits him. JOK is standing there watching and just lets her get up to 24 mph and drill him?

3. Assuming he stood still……
Driving a car sober at 10 mph in reverse isn’t normal. 25 mph in reverse is difficult; while drunk and hitting a target seems like it would be a pretty hard.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/22/25 at 8:10 pm
Ummm the defense specifically mentioned that a dog could have been involved in part of the attack. And that the bite wounds could have come from a dog.
And they questioned what kind of dog it was and when why it was rehomed.
So yes; while the defense didn’t say “This pork dna is clearly indicative that a dog with pork on its teeth bit JOK and that is our specific theory”
for me pork DNA certainly indicated that a dog could have been involved.

re: Karen Read murder trial

Posted by Dandy Chiggins on 4/22/25 at 7:50 pm
The bite wounds had pork DNA.
Defense theory is that many dog treats and chew toys contain pork.

So I think it does go to reasonable doubt in that the most likely thing to cause a bite type wound is a dog not a taillight.
The most likely way for pork to get into a bite type would is probably from dna remaining on the dogs teeth.certainly not from a car.

Etc etc etc….
quote:

Big Hurt


More like the Big Hunk
quote:

Ben MF Voogd


Years ago on this board someone suggested we start using “Voogds” instead of sucks.

“Im sorry man, that really Voogd’s”
Still makes me chuckle…..