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re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/29/26 at 5:54 pm to texastiger38
This is hilarious:
It wasn't paid by AD, the sponsors just applied for financial assistance in the exact amounts laid out in the emails and AD paid it. Nothing to see here
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re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/29/26 at 5:50 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The amount they received and disguised as real sponsorship dollars is staggering.
Like I posted earlier, them signing the deal with Ethihad in 2011 for $600M American dollars over 10 years is absurd. At the time it was the richest sponsorship deal in all of professional sports and wasn't eclipsed for 3-4 years. For a team at the time that hadn't won a PL and hadn't even played in a CL game it should have been throwing the biggest of red flags
Like I posted earlier, them signing the deal with Ethihad in 2011 for $600M American dollars over 10 years is absurd. At the time it was the richest sponsorship deal in all of professional sports and wasn't eclipsed for 3-4 years. For a team at the time that hadn't won a PL and hadn't even played in a CL game it should have been throwing the biggest of red flags
re: Arsenal 2026/2027 Season Thread
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/29/26 at 5:47 pm to cwil177
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hate shitty but where is this number coming from?
PL released the independent commissions report. Their findings is essentially: City were a state owned club and entered into marketing deals with real companies that only paid something like 160M pounds of sponsorship and ADUG (Government entity, City's owner is the king/princes brother) paid the other 900M pounds of fees over 8-9 years.
re: DAT 9/29: White Sox (Wholestaff) @ Astros (Wholestaff) - 4:00ct - Peacock/NBCSN
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/29/26 at 5:27 pm to Cosmo
Things are going well
re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/29/26 at 3:55 am to Srbtiger06
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You do not recall. 400M for 10. Still a record, but there's no reason to inflate numbers here, we did enough of that on our own.
If my math is right, that story is 400M British pounds, and I wrote $600M dollars, it's pretty close:
£400 million was worth approximately $641.6 million on average in 2011, based on historical exchange rates from Exchange Rates UK.
So again, at the time, when City weren't any good, and not a big enough brand to support having the largest marketing deal in all of professional sports.
re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/28/26 at 5:13 pm to ohiovol
The story I saw said that Chelsea and another club both offered more than the 51m, something like 75+. Ultimately a player has to agree to a move even if a release clause is triggered. I don't put a lot into those stories
I imagine it wasn't much different than the Mbappe deal, with lots of signing bonus, agent/family payments, etc, etc
I imagine it wasn't much different than the Mbappe deal, with lots of signing bonus, agent/family payments, etc, etc
re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/28/26 at 2:38 pm to TeddyPadillac
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If an owner can't inject money into the club, then why does it matter if the owner is a millionaire or a billionaire? Didn't Couhig sell off Wycombe b/c he didn't have the money to give them a better chance at getting to the Championship and staying there, and possibly beyond? What's an owner spending money on?
An owner can spend money on his club, but clubs can only spend so much in relation to their revenue at each level of football. There are certain things that don't count towards "1st team" spending: Academy, training grounds, etc. and it's actually one of the things City does the best because their owner isn't afraid to spend
There's rules about associated party transactions (APT) and how they are counted, and also that sponsorships need to be somewhat of a market value.
Part of what City ran into is that they had giant deals with Ethiad & other UAE companies that those companies weren't actually paying most of the sponsorship monies, they were coming from the Owner/Govt Entity.
If I recall their initial big agreement with Ethiad was the largest sponsorship agreement in all of sports at the time ($600M+ for 10 years) and signed in 2011, long before what they are today (good at football, and before their historic 2012 PL win). Turned out that Ethiad funded about 10-15M of that per year and the other 45-50M was pure owner/govt funding.
So they were artificially inflating revenue so they could spend more. There's other things that went on as well (like having unreported contracts with coaches, players, agents), bit the additional funding was the big deal.
re: DAT 9/27: Astros (Wholestaff) @ A's (Johnson) - AL West Champs
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/27/26 at 4:44 pm to Samso
Hopefully we don't get swept this go round
re: NFL Various Games - Week 3
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/27/26 at 3:12 pm to lsupride87
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re: NFL Various Games - Week 3
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/27/26 at 2:58 pm to TheWalrus
Demeco still a terrible situational coach. Let 30 sec run off before calling a TO :lol:
re: Arsenal 2026/2027 Season Thread
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 9:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Imagine what Brighton with equal revenue spread around all the clubs. Brighton will never consistently challenge for an EPL title. It doesn't matter how well they are run. There are barriers they cannot overcome.
The PL is far and away the best place for lesser known teams to "compete". 67% of all PL revenues are distributed evenly among the teams. No other league is remotely close
It's funny because UEFA, & Bayern were the big drivers of FFP models. Real Madrid played a big part in getting added to FFP that higher revenue teams could spend more instead of hard spending caps. Everyone thinks it was the "red cartel" but the real purpose behind it was so teams couldn't build up retarded amounts of debt after the 2008 market collapse.
re: Arsenal 2026/2027 Season Thread
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 6:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The same thing is happening in the UCL, too. I doubt English clubs would want financial regulations in play to make things more equal over all the major leagues in Europe
I mean there are financial regulations, and they are more strict than PL rules. PL is moving to SCR, and you have to be at or under 80%, UEFA is 70%
It's a big reason why PSG sold/moved a ton of players after the 24-25 season
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PSR effectively protects legacy clubs from ever being challenged consistently.
So long as you are good on the pitch. Tottenham, and to a lesser extent Chelsea are going to be in a bind if they don't make Europe next season. Chelsea because they light money on fire consistently, and Spurs because they spent on ungodly amount of money and have finished 17th 2 years in a row
re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 6:03 pm to supatigah
I think it's important to note that the EPL isn't deciding punishments in this case. They investigated and charged City. A 3 person independent commission tried the case and will issue whatever punishment based on PL rules.
re: Arsenal 2026/2027 Season Thread
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 5:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Getting good value when they sell players is the opposite of displaying busts.
Chelsea is still getting good value as well. I mean they basically broke even on Enzo.
Some teams are generally just better at selling players, whether that be agent relationships or dodgy sporting directors. Chelsea have bought a good bit of former City players/academy players because Joe Shields was once with City. Selling Savinho & Marmoush to Tottenham was GOOD business, but neither player is good enough for what they were sold for. 75M pounds for 11 goal contributions in 2 seasons in the PL?
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What do those years of Arsenal's history have to do with their spending now? Nothing. If you want to talk about the actual years in question, you could argue Man City had an advantage, but Arsenal had institutional barriers to entry that gave them an advantage, too. PSR came about in 2013l largely to protect those barriers to entry.
It allowed them to keep their books clean for when they thought it was wise to begin spending/competing again. Not sure what Advantage Arsenal had, they had to comply with the same rules and it's literally the reason why they were consistently selling their best players for years.
The "institutional barriers" are just: if you are good, you can make a lot of money, get in Europe and get a lot of sponsorships, allowing you to spend more money. Most teams don't spend wisely enough, and aren't patient enough to get there. And City likely wouldn't have had either, but they cheated, so they did.
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Man City has shown these rules are retarded
By willfully breaking them? :lol: sure?
re: Arsenal 2026/2027 Season Thread
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 5:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You need to look up net spend the past 10 years. That spending and that success has nothing to do with the prior cheating.
You do realize that being able to buy players without the risk of them busting because you can always just buy more when you aren't complying with rules is absolutely a sporting advantage, right?
In some of the last "cheating years" they bought several players that were cornerstones of the title winning years that they might not been able to buy if they were complying with the rules. How can you not see that as an advantage?
Arsenal spent years selling their best players because they were paying off stadium debt. Don't you think they could have been better if they were just spending money however they saw fit? Financial rules be damed.
Having the argument of, "well they sell well too" doesn't negate that their ability to spend in the current environment was a direct result of cheating, getting good, and profiting off of that success, allowing them to spend "cleanly" now
It's ok to be mad about the spending rules, but most teams, now at least, are complying. Just because you think the "red cartel" wanted them to not be apart of the club doesn't mean you can ignore rules that all of the clubs voted to be put into place
re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 4:55 pm to supatigah
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if I am the Saudis and Newcastle I am pretty pissed off at that scenario KSA is politically and financially far more important to England than UAE EPL placating the UAE and potentially negatively impacting the value of the KSAPIF investment into Newcastle is some serious boomerang shite right there
Not to mention, if Newcastle cooked their books for almost a decade, they might actually get better. Instead they are consistently required to sell some of their best players because they ARE trying to comply with the rules in place.
Aston Villa is much in the same boat.
Some of the big windows at the end of Cities "cheating years" where they weren't complying with financial rules laid the foundation for the run they went on. KDB, Stones, Ohtamendi, Ederson, Silva, Walker, Sterling, Sane, Fernandinho, Laporte all bought in 2015-2018 time period
re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Man City doesn't even have the highest wage bill
You have got to stop using transfer market for any reliable wage data.
Per the UEFA 2025 report, City had the highest wages in football
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re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/26/26 at 2:54 pm to BamaCoaster
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Supposedly, UAE has called the British govt and said if penalty is severe, they’ll withdraw a ton of investment and cooperation elsewhere, which is why I’m on record stating penalties won’t be severe whatsoever.
You mean to tell me that even though City claim they aren't, they are owned by a government entity? Whodathunkit
re: DAT 9/25: Astros (Brown) @ A's (Lopez) 8:40
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/25/26 at 3:44 pm to Floating Change Up
Go team
re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count
Posted by texastiger38 on 9/25/26 at 3:08 pm to dgnx6
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I think teams should sue.
They are:
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Posted by texastiger38 on 9/24/26 at 2:44 pm to texastiger38
Kai off injured with Germany. Got raked on the knee pretty good:
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