Billy Ray Valentine

Sorry,but you're wrong.
Just looked at the replay again.
Either the ball slipped out of Etling's hand just as Moore passes him or it hits Moore's wrist as Moore passes him.
I think it's the latter b/c Etling had control of the ball in his left hand and is beginning to reach to hand off....the point of the ball spins as it grazes Moore's wrist & falls to the turf.

Doesn't matter much but the ball comes loose just as Moore runs past Etling.

Did Etling start to hand the ball to Leonard & Moore's arm swing knock the ball out or did he just drop the ball?

Winning will take care of all the "disrespect" that sooooo many fans continue to whine about.
It's pretty pathetic the whining that plenty of fans continue to do.

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Hitters fight off pitches all the time without the intention of putting it in play as they swing.

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OK, whatever.
I'm not trying to argue with you, but that's just not true.
It is EXTREMELY rare & ridiculously difficult to read a pitch and intentionally foul it off.

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You think it can't happen intentionally?

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I'll bet you everything in your bank account that he wasn't intentionally trying foul pitches off instead of putting them in play.

totally depends on the situation

Anyone that answers this without at least asking what the count is should be discredited.
Pitcher tendencies also important, but the count is most important (unless it's a thumber that throws a bunch of change ups/slow curves...even behind in the count).

I'm an SEC homer.....but the bias is super strong in here.
Understandable, I guess.
Assuming wins is just foolish. Look no further than OSU in the playoff.....given virtually no chance in either game.

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UGA probably would've crushed ND too in 2012

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& there's no way bama will lose to an OSU team that barely made it into the playoff & lost to (gasp) 6-6 VaTech

Had this discussion with a group of CFB fans with various team/conference ties & it's not outlandish if you're unbiased.

SEC won 7 MNC's in a row from 2006-2012 & 7 of the past 9.
Five of those are Meyer or Saban. Saban won with LSU 3 yrs prior to that run.
SEC has been the clearcut media darling and dominant conference during that time, due in large part to the championship run & the perception that comes with that.

The 2 outliers are 2007 & 2010.
The fact is that Saban's footprint was heavily part of LSU's 2007 team that won. And AU had a great team in 2010 with great individual players. Other teams from all conferences have had good runs (even undefeated regular seasons) during that time...including LSU.

But seeing the ridiculous success of Saban & Meyer (historically & current) gives credence to the thought that the vast majority of this SEC perceived domination is purely due to those two coaches much more than the superiority of teams top to bottom.

Yes the SEC perennially has best recruiting classes & most players in NFL draft....but that doesn't automatically mean the teams are better.
Look no further than this past season. The SECW DOMINATED the polls and only lost to other SECW or SECE teams all season.
In reality, they were extremely overrated. (among those SEC teams bama is still the cream of the crop, coached by....you guessed it)
While Meyer guided the undisputed best team in the land in his 3rd year at OSU and has an undefeated season under his belt there also.

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U.S. falls behind on exercise, gets fatter

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for the aggregate population it has much more to do with shitty diet/eating habits than lack of exercise

....and fat people are fu@king gross
....and the situation is gettting worse & worse (obviously)