Toomer Deplorable
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| Biography: | “I am not a bum. I'm a jerk. I once had wealth, power, and the love of a beautiful woman. Now I only have two things: my friends, and... uh... my thermos. Huh? My story? Okay. It was never easy for me. I was born a poor black child...” |
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| Registered on: | 5/15/2020 |
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re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/6/26 at 6:52 pm to Narax
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No, its a statement of fact.
You reason poorly, you press the I believe button based on some random thoughts you throw out.
Hello Glue! I’m Rubber! Pleased to make your acquaintance!
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You hardly addressed my documented argument that Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel collectively have larger military budgets and combined militaries than Iran. This is the most substantive part of your reply:
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Go through the actual process, what do they do with this money, how many Saudis need to die? What will happen.
As to the critique of ‘what will happen’ —that’s exactly the problem these countries are meant to solve themselves. That indeed is the whole point: to empower these nations to take ownership of their own collective security, rather than relying solely on perpetual external guarantees by the U.S. military.
With that addressed, the rest of your reply primarily consists of a series ad hominem attacks and incredulity rather than a structured counterargument. You are a rank hypocrite of the first order!
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re: How the Internet Fringe (the "Woke Right") Infiltrated Republican Politics
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/6/26 at 6:08 pm to Centinel
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What isn't?
Iran? JOOS.
Trump? JOOS.
Economy? JOOS.
Immigration? JOOS.
Grandma stubbed her toe? JOOS.
That is a two way street. Equating any criticism whatsoever of Israel’s powerful lobbying efforts in Congress as simply being a manifestation of “joo” hatred is itself a leftist gutter tactic.
re: How the Internet Fringe (the "Woke Right") Infiltrated Republican Politics
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/6/26 at 6:01 pm to thermal9221
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Woke right is not a thing.
Its something james lindsay tried to coin to represent people that dont like israel.
I’m not sure if that is the case with James Lindsey yet it certainly is true of those “conservatives” who equate any criticism of Israel’s lobbying efforts in Congress as a form of “joo” hatred.
:rolleyes:
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/6/26 at 5:17 pm to BTROleMisser
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Oh look. One of the board Jtards is Jtarding.
What a sad and sorry sight that much of MAGA has now been reduced to employing such prog gutter tactics.
Any argument on foreign policy with which you disagree isn’t a form of “joo” hatred.
:rolleyes:
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/6/26 at 4:57 pm to Narax
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We know that doesn't work
This strategy hasn’t “worked” because it hasn’t been tried. And that is because Israel and Saudi Arabia, in particular, know that the U.S. would step in as their ultimate security guarantors — essentially acting as their “palace guard” against potential Iranian threats
Based on the most current data, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel certainly have the economic scale and military capabilities to deter or counter Iranian aggression without relying solely on nuclear weapons. The individual defense budgets of Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel far exceed that of Iran’s defense budget.
When combined, the defense budgets of these 3 countries overwhelmingly outmatch Iran’s defense budget. Likewise, the combined armies of these 3 nations far outnumber Iran’s forces.
Alone, these 3 powers possess significant economic and military advantages over Iran; they certainly are capable of leveraging these advantages to deter Iranian aggression. A strategic positioning of their combined forces would provide Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel a solid foundation to deter or defend against Iranian ambitions through conventional forces.
Defense Budget by Country (2026)
Mapped: The Biggest Armies in the Middle East…
With that out of the way, on to this:
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you are blind, this is great proof that anyone who listened to you followed a blind fool.
Every exchange I have had with you ends with you resorting to ad hominem attacks because you simply are incapable of offering substantial rebuttals.
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You haven't understood anything about this have you, you must believe there are fools here who will listen to your already disproven claims...
Who are these fools you target?
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You haven’t disproven anything. You are a brainwashed tool who believes that American lives should be endangered protecting the sovereignty of medieval, autocratic regimes.
I suppose since Trump now says MAGA is whatever Trump says it is, you can call your support for this war of choice a MAGA position. Yet it certainly isn’t a conservative position, if by “conservative” you mean an adherence to the principles of limited government.
This type of military interventionism is the very opposite of any conservative impulse. Just like domestic welfare, the U.S. acting as the Middle East’s permanent militarized nanny is a form of welfare.
Whether it’s benefiting politically connected constituents or foreign nations, this is a blatant wealth redistribution scheme. It is Welfare Statism, plain and simple.
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re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 9:20 pm to Narax
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That's foolish.
What could either of them do short of racing for nukes themselves?
This is a false dichotomy: nuclear weapons aren’t the only meaningful deterrent to Iranian aggression. Again, Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia all have the economic scale, conventional forces and strategic motivation to counterbalance Iranian aggression.
As suggested by J.D. Vance, the other middle powers in the region can form a coalition to serve as a counter to Iran’s hegemonic ambitions. A coordinated regional bloc of these powers — including the other Gulf Kingdoms — can effectively constrain Iranian hegemonic ambitions.
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Slavers owning a slave population they fear.
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And here we have come full circle. This is EXACTLY why no American blood or treasure should be spent defending these medieval, theocratic regimes. Again, you are arguing my point for me.
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 5:36 pm to Narax
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You can't name a plausible military power in the middle east who could stop Iran's nuclear and missile ambitions.
That is pure baloney. Relative to Iran and based on their GDP, Saudi Arabia and Turkey both have the capability to deter Iranian hegemony in the reason.
Qatar and the U.A.E. also have economies much larger than that of Iran. Along with Israel, these wealthy nations are perfectly capable of forming a coalition to counter Iranian aggression.
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 5:17 pm to Narax
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So you agree they were... and you think we should let them get it?
I’ve stated here repeatedly that the other military powers in the Middle East are more than capable of containing Iran. My problem is with the use of the collective term “we” in this equation: this should not be a problem for the United States to solve.
It seems unlikely that Israel would commit troops to a ground invasion of Iran. Why would they since the United States does all their dirty work?
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re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 4:56 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
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“Bomb Iran” song 1980
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 4:55 pm to Riverside
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You bump this anti-American slop on a great day for the Country. You and the rest of the anti-American left can get lit. We’re winning this war and it triggers you bigly.
You just bumped the thread yourself.
You understand how this message board works, don’t you?
In any event, I’m just pleased you are following along at home.
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re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 4:33 pm to Narax
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You are completely wrong on Iran, Drunken baby in the woods wrong.
You can't admit that?
How am I wrong? Trump justified the attack on Tehran because he claimed Iran was weeks away from acquiring a nuclear weapon; Tulsi Gabbard’s sworn Senate testimony last month directly contradicted Trump’s claim.
That is a fact. Can you admit that?
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Do you think Iran was trying to get a bomb, stop lying to yourself, admit it, were they trying to get one?
It is a non-sequitur. I have never once claimed that Iran wasn’t pursuing a nuclear weapon.
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You've fallen into complete falsehoods.
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re: The talking points are out
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 1:55 pm to wackatimesthree
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Then why do you come here to "discuss" politics?
Voting does no good, but posting constant negative bullshite on an anonymous message board is going to revolutionize "the system" and vanquish "The Deep State?"
Sending politicians to the Potomac Beltway to become bought-and-paid-for K-$treet whores certainly does no good. This is why I say that if Liberty is to continue in this once great nation, it will arise in subsidiary, nullification and even secession movements in the individual states.
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I'm so sick of populists thinking they are smarter than everyone else because they think they've discovered something new.
Nothing I advocate on this board is about “proving” how smart I am. It’s about acknowledging the undeniable fact that our current fiscal trajectory is unsustainable, a truth rooted in the basic laws of gravity, not personal opinion.
Both parties support — to varying degrees — unlimited bailouts, ceaseless welfare and perpetual war. This is ultimately why any vote in this UniParty® charade is Sisyphean exercise in utter futility.
When — not if — this house of cards collapses, it is not going to be a soft landing for any of us. The question is what will take it’s place?
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I've got some banner news for you: The "Deep State" has existed as long as people have organized into tribes. The deck has always been stacked, the real moves have always been made in secret meetings in cigar-filled back rooms by men twisting their mustaches and laughing like Vincent Price. For thousands of years.
That is certainly an accurate description of our nation’s current political system. So we finally have found a point of political agreement.
Yet I am far from black-pilled; I am indeed a red pilled American. I believe that these words are just as relevant as the day they were written:
“When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation….”
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re: The talking points are out
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 11:07 am to Champagne
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The USA is destined to become a Radical Leftist Totalitarian Regime that will ruthlessly persecute all Christians inside the USA.
re: The talking points are out
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 11:04 am to Centinel
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There is nothing Trump could have done, or can do, to stop what's going to happen during the midterms.
Because the Republicans in Congress want to lose. Being the majority party means facing their constituents who want them to do something. If they lose, and become the minority party again, they don't have to worry about this anymore.
Looking at it from a purely self-interest point of view, why would you want to be the majority party Congress? There is no benefit unless you want power, which most Republicans do not. That's a democrat thing.
Easier to kick back, attend those nice dinner parties, and work on your portfolio.
This ultimately is why any vote in this UniParty® charade is vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State. While these two factions argue on cable TV over which side controls the Imperial War Machine, the Deep State ever consolidates it’s base of power.
re: The talking points are out
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 10:54 am to DeplorableTerrorizer
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Cause we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Iran needed to be dealt with for 47 years, it was either this or eventually a large mushroom cloud somewhere.
Trump said that Iran’s nuclear program had been obliterated and Tulsi Gabbard confirmed that in a sworn statement. Yet setting that issue aside, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and all the other Gulf Kingdoms oppose a nuclear armed Iran and all likewise have efficient and capable militaries.
These wealthy nations in the Middle East can take a more active role in containing Iran. Saudi Arabia’s economy is more than twice the size of Iran’s, and Turkey’s is similarly much larger.
NO American blood or treasure should be wasted securing the sovereignty of these autocratic regimes. It is time for the other middle powers in the region to invest in their own security and quit depending upon the U.S. to defend their interests.
re: The talking points are out
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 8:37 am to DeplorableTerrorizer
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The key takeaway from Vietnam was a failure to be willing to truly do what was necessary to win cause of politics and some idiotic idea that just killing them, without taking over their centers of gravity would work.
The problem here is that while Trump is burning precious political capital on the war against Iran, the midterms are hanging in the balance. Yet the feckless Repubes in the Senate can’t even muster enough votes to pass the SAVE Act.
The Vietnam War also illustrated a recurring dynamic in American politics: while self-described conservatives are focused on pursuing military hegemony abroad, progressives consolidate their power domestically through the systematic expansion of the welfare state. That NYC — the throne of the Western financial system — has installed a commie jihadist as it’s Mayor only underscores that threat.
How about we oust the collectivists from our own shores before we begin another Middle Eastern Crusade? Once again, the biggest threat to continued Liberty in this country emanates not from Tehran, Moscow or Beijing but from the deeply embedded communist entities in our own nation.
re: The talking points are out
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 8:08 am to Placekicker
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What’s really pathetic is that we have exposed this type of coordinated propaganda messaging before, several times, yet, they continue to do it.
Trump says Iran was two weeks away from nuclear weapon, forcing US strike….
www.whitehouse.gov
re: The talking points are out
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 8:06 am to thebigmuffaletta
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“Iran is winning the war”
Imagine being so desperate for a win that you think Iran is winning the war because they managed to finally hit a plane after thousands of combat missions.
Liberals are pathetic
Iran lacks the capacity to match the U.S. military’s overwhelming strength — but that’s not the point. The primary objective of the IRG is to simply endure —both politically and militarily — until the heart of the midterm season.
If the Iranian regime can survive until summer, the entire strategic calculus shifts. The key takeaway from Vietnam is that tactical dominance doesn’t necessarily translate into a strategic victory.
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/5/26 at 7:38 am to Narax
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Short term he was correct, did you in any way think that they could never build it again?
He seems to have wrongly hoped that Iran would be reasonable and diplomatic.
He was dead wrong.
The only thing IRGC understands is death.
You are completely glossing over the inherent inconsistency in Trump’s two statements. Last June, Trump claimed Iran’s nuclear program had been obliterated.
Yet Trump claimed last month that Tehran was targeted because the regime was 2 weeks away from acquiring a nuclear weapon. Those two statements can’t be reconciled.
Especially in light of Tulsi Gabbard’s sworn Senate testimony that Iran’s nuclear program was indeed “obliterated” and that Iran had made “no effort” since then to try and rebuild their enrichment capabilities. Trump’s claim that Iran was two weeks away from obtaining a nuclear weapon was not just misleading based on a wrong impression — it was an outright falsehood.
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/4/26 at 4:26 pm to Narax
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No, I've always said that we should take out Iran's Nuclear weapons program.
You conveniently are ignoring the fact that Trump said that goal was accomplished. Tulsi Gabbard recently confirmed that assessment under oath in a Senate hearing.
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You again are an indictment of blindly sticking to an ideal long past it's expiration date.
re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable on 4/4/26 at 3:13 pm to John somers
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You're not supposed to notice their lack of ability to remember a lie longer than 48 hours.
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