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re: Dellenger: SEC will comply with court orders, paving the way for signings
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/29/26 at 11:38 am to TIGERhype
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but suspending Kiffin for half a season and taking 50% of LSU’s football budget after LSU followed a court order would trigger another major lawsuit.
And it would cause an uproar in the SEC. Opposing fans love to talk **** and would cheer it on. Their respective university wouldn't think it was something to cheer. They would be horrified by it.
re: The situation at LSU
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/29/26 at 8:21 am to Dicken Nuggets
For good measure, here's what the internet/AI has to say:
Generally, no, you cannot be successfully sued simply for encouraging someone to file a lawsuit if that lawsuit is ultimately proven to have merit and wins in court.
Because anyone can technically file a lawsuit about anything, the target of the lawsuit could try to sue you, but their case against you would almost certainly fail.
The law shields you for two primary reasons:
(1) truth/merit is an absolute defense against claims of litigation abuse
(2) providing truthful information or encouraging legal rights is protected behavior.
Why You Are ProtectedA Meritorious Win Disproves Malice:
To sue you for "wrongfully stirring up a lawsuit," the other party would have to prove you acted maliciously to cause harm. The fact that the plaintiff won on merit proves that a legitimate legal wrong occurred. You cannot be penalized for encouraging someone to seek lawful justice for a real injury.
First Amendment / Free Speech Protection:
Simply telling a friend, "Hey, that company cheated you, you should sue them," is a form of protected speech. You are merely pointing out their legal rights.
The Death of Old Laws:
Hundreds of years ago, English common law had crimes called maintenance (stirring up someone else's lawsuit) and champerty (funding someone else's lawsuit for a cut of the money). In modern law, these doctrines have been heavily restricted or completely abolished in most jurisdictions. Today, encouraging or even funding a lawsuit is completely legal as long as the case is not a fake, malicious sham.
The Only (Extremely Rare) Exceptions:
There are only a couple of highly specific scenarios where encouraging a successful lawsuit could land you in legal hot water:
(1) Breach of a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) or Contract.
If you signed a legally binding NDA promising never to share certain information, and you broke that contract by giving the information to someone else to help them sue, you could be sued—not for encouraging the lawsuit, but for breaching your contract.
(2) Tortious Interference (In rare business contexts).
If you maliciously used fraud, threats, or stolen trade secrets to actively induce someone to break a contract and sue a competitor, the competitor might try to claim tortious interference. However, if the lawsuit itself was won on merit, proving your actions were "improper or unjustified" becomes an incredibly steep uphill battle.
It seems to me that even if LSU encouraged the players to file suit, there isn't much if anything the NCAA/SEC can do if at some point an injunction is awarded/declared. An injunction shows that a judge believes there is "merit" to the plaintiff/s case/lawsuit.
Of course, our legal system has shown to be corrupt so in that sense an injunction doesn't prove a damn thing. We already have anecdotal evidence of judges doing whatever the hell they want regardless of the law.
Generally, no, you cannot be successfully sued simply for encouraging someone to file a lawsuit if that lawsuit is ultimately proven to have merit and wins in court.
Because anyone can technically file a lawsuit about anything, the target of the lawsuit could try to sue you, but their case against you would almost certainly fail.
The law shields you for two primary reasons:
(1) truth/merit is an absolute defense against claims of litigation abuse
(2) providing truthful information or encouraging legal rights is protected behavior.
Why You Are ProtectedA Meritorious Win Disproves Malice:
To sue you for "wrongfully stirring up a lawsuit," the other party would have to prove you acted maliciously to cause harm. The fact that the plaintiff won on merit proves that a legitimate legal wrong occurred. You cannot be penalized for encouraging someone to seek lawful justice for a real injury.
First Amendment / Free Speech Protection:
Simply telling a friend, "Hey, that company cheated you, you should sue them," is a form of protected speech. You are merely pointing out their legal rights.
The Death of Old Laws:
Hundreds of years ago, English common law had crimes called maintenance (stirring up someone else's lawsuit) and champerty (funding someone else's lawsuit for a cut of the money). In modern law, these doctrines have been heavily restricted or completely abolished in most jurisdictions. Today, encouraging or even funding a lawsuit is completely legal as long as the case is not a fake, malicious sham.
The Only (Extremely Rare) Exceptions:
There are only a couple of highly specific scenarios where encouraging a successful lawsuit could land you in legal hot water:
(1) Breach of a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) or Contract.
If you signed a legally binding NDA promising never to share certain information, and you broke that contract by giving the information to someone else to help them sue, you could be sued—not for encouraging the lawsuit, but for breaching your contract.
(2) Tortious Interference (In rare business contexts).
If you maliciously used fraud, threats, or stolen trade secrets to actively induce someone to break a contract and sue a competitor, the competitor might try to claim tortious interference. However, if the lawsuit itself was won on merit, proving your actions were "improper or unjustified" becomes an incredibly steep uphill battle.
It seems to me that even if LSU encouraged the players to file suit, there isn't much if anything the NCAA/SEC can do if at some point an injunction is awarded/declared. An injunction shows that a judge believes there is "merit" to the plaintiff/s case/lawsuit.
Of course, our legal system has shown to be corrupt so in that sense an injunction doesn't prove a damn thing. We already have anecdotal evidence of judges doing whatever the hell they want regardless of the law.
re: The situation at LSU
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/29/26 at 7:50 am to GA Tiger
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I have a simple question: Based on everything we’ve heard in the media, IF it’s proven in court that Kiffin or someone from LSU did contact some of the players from the class of 2022, can any legal action be taken against Kiffin or LSU?
No doubt you come from a generation in which you were encouraged to figure something out instead of simply asking for answers all the time.
In today's world, that means interacting with the internet/AI. Or you could have done a thought-experiment.
Also, to all the people who love to come on here and ask others to explain something to them as if they're a five year old, **** YOU!
I don't work for you. Stop being lazy and go get the answer for yourself by doing a little research.
re: LSU exploring leaving the SEC .
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/27/26 at 6:03 pm to Rebelinexile
LSU isn't involved with private equity you moron.
re: Why does Kiffin play victim when he’s the problem?
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/27/26 at 6:01 pm to ForeverGator
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Sure, some coaches explored having NFL players on their roster, but none actually did it except Kiffin. Now he plays victim and comes up with tons of excuses. Accountability isn’t a thing at LSU. We already know that. But accountability has never been a thing for Kiffin. Man up and say it was a mistake instead of acting like a little bitch and whining about it. Or just leave the SEC, LSU would fit in Sun Belt or AAC. No one would miss them.
Your university seriously tried to hire Kiffin.
Also, 4-12 in the last sixteen game against LSU. I guess you would want LSU out of the conference.
re: LSU basketball has added 7'3" Israeli Center Gilad Levy as a transfer
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/27/26 at 5:08 pm to Kc from BR
Are all of these professional international players going to need an injunction to play?
re: Lane Kiffin is a sticky problem
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/26/26 at 9:18 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
So let me get this right...
You call him "sticky" because he has a history of not sticking around?
I'm afraid to ask for an explanation.
You call him "sticky" because he has a history of not sticking around?
I'm afraid to ask for an explanation.
re: Kim Mulkey finally officially signs her big 6'5" Russian post player!
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/26/26 at 7:32 pm to Septiger
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How is Ana eligible after playing in a pro league in Moscow?
Good point. LSU fuqt.
re: Has Jayden approved of LSU playing September “5”?
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/26/26 at 7:21 pm to doya2
F*CK Jayden!
Any opportunity I get to say f*ck Jayden Daniels will be taken.
Any opportunity I get to say f*ck Jayden Daniels will be taken.
re: Kim Mulkey finally officially signs her big 6'5" Russian post player!
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/26/26 at 5:48 pm to LSUFreek
Mulkey should go sign a trans player, preferably a large, powerful, athletic trans player who can play center.
And why not? The right will love her for doing it and the left should love her for supporting trans rights/equality.
It's a win-win.
And why not? The right will love her for doing it and the left should love her for supporting trans rights/equality.
It's a win-win.
re: LSU basketball has added 7'3" Israeli Center Gilad Levy as a transfer
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/26/26 at 10:53 am to JWill409
How long before LSU muslims protest?
re: The SEC thinks they can deny the relief granted by a judge.
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/26/26 at 10:16 am to XbengalTiger
I learned two things from this thread:
1. LSU about to be independent like Notre Dame
2. Judges are the real kings/queens in the US.
1. LSU about to be independent like Notre Dame
2. Judges are the real kings/queens in the US.
re: President Tate and Scott Woodward
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 4:59 pm to Brotorious
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LSU learned the hard way when Saban wanted to come back. We did the right thing (public perception) even though we knew what we throwing away by not rehiring Saban.
You could have ended the post here.
If Skip would have made that move, then he would be a legend to the entire sporting world as well as an icon in the leadership community.
I know many of you will say that Skip is already a legend in those arenas; however, my opinion is that he would be significantly more of a legend.
The stones it would have taken to make that move is rare. He definitely would have received a lot of negativity for it but he sure as hell would have come out looking like a genius when it was all said and done.
A shame he didn't do it. Dude's legend as an athletic director would be untouchable.
re: QB making $5m a year not a pro (ok)- UDFA who made $50k signing bonus a pro (bad)
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 1:04 pm to ScoopAndScore
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Right! So it’s a profession now and anyone should have the right to make that money if someone is willing to pay them. Surely a college football program would pay Pavia $1M to play QB for them this year. Why can’t that happen.
Diego Pavia is a great example. Vanderbilt would pay him way more than $1M per year to be their QB and they would do if for the next decade.
The NCAA found itself in a market in which they had a monopoly. They did exactly what we would expect them to do. They were predatory. It's interesting that they set up conditions in which they would not pay players money nor would they allow players to make any money from their football endeavor. It's clear why they did this. It was/is significantly profitable for them to do so.
Under the old system, LSU would never pay Leavitt anything close to five million dollars to play for them. Not even over four years.
It didn't cost LSU much of anything to allow a player to live for free in a crappy Broussard Hall dormitory. It didn't cost them much to allow a player to eat for free in the cafeteria or to attend a class for free. How much did it cost LSU to issue a player some athletic gear/clothing? Not tens of thousands of dollars per player.
Here's where I'm going with this: players are employees. It's that simple. They are not recruited to be students. They are not awarded academic scholarships. They are recruited and awarded athletic scholarships (whatever that means) to play football games and make LSU and the city of BR a lot of money.
Again, it's interesting that some fans want everyone but the players to be able to profit off of the players blood, sweat, and tears.
If we ask the players what they want, they would tell us that they want to be paid for their service, which as we have found out is a hell of a lot more than what they were getting under the old system.
Here's the cold, hard reality for all the fans who want the old system back:
LSU heads into a game against a big-time opponent - Ole Miss, Texas, Bama, A&M, etc... News breaks Friday morning that several starters on LSU's football team will not be playing in the game because they're not doing well in the classroom and they need to focus on their grades. In that situation, you traditionalists who think the players are actually "STUDENTS" would lose your f*****g minds.
Here's another example that cannot be refuted:
Lane Kiffin concludes his first football season at LSU with wins against LaTech and McNeese. A 2-10 losing record. On a positive note, every single player on the team has 4.0 GPA and is on track to graduate in less than four years.
You people that believe the players are students who are being rightfully compensated with a college education wouldn't give a Godd*amn f**k about a team GPA of 4.0 and all players being on track to graduate early. You all would be rioting in the streets about a losing record and yelling from the rooftops to fire Lane Kiffin to include statements such as, "These athletes weren't brought here to play school! They were brought here to win football games!"
LSU's 2026 football roster is allegedly costing boosters forty to fifty million dollars. Here's some numbers on that cost:
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When spreading the total budget across the primary roster, LSU is spending an estimated $380,000 to $568,000 per player on average.
Because college football's new House settlement rules capped official team rosters at 105 total players, the exact average depends heavily on how the funding is distributed across the depth chart:
The Baseline Average (All 105 Players): If the total budget is spread equally across a full 105-player cap, the average sits between $381,000 and $476,000 per player.
The Active Valuation Average (88 Players): Industry insights from The NIL Standard calculate LSU’s specific 2026 financial distribution across 88 core non-walk-on players, resulting in an average of $454,500 to $568,000 per player
Under the old system, LSU was not compensating their players anything close to these numbers on a per year basis.
If your child had the option to get a free education from LSU for four years or get paid $380,000 to $568,000 per year for four years working for LSU, which one would you advise your child to take?
Anyone answering a "free education" is a liar.
re: President Tate and Scott Woodward
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 11:49 am to cjohn1290
I appreciate the spirit of the original post; however, I don't think winning at all costs is the best practice.
Do we really want LSU to cheat like Michigan in order to win a natty?
Also, our current AD failed miserably regarding the Drake Davis domestic violence issue. Do we really want to be another Baylor University?
Do we really want LSU to cheat like Michigan in order to win a natty?
Also, our current AD failed miserably regarding the Drake Davis domestic violence issue. Do we really want to be another Baylor University?
re: 18 being given today
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 11:31 am to BattinRouge11
How about players and fans quit worrying about jersey numbers?
The players should wear whatever jersey number they get and focus on being a great player. If they do that, then whatever number they are/were wearing will be "cool."
If you think I'm full of it, then think about Alvin Kamara.
When he was issued the 41 jersey, fans were like, "Really? 41? That's awkward." Even Kamara didn't like.
But that's okay because at the time Sean Payton said Kamara wouldn't stay in the "41" jersey and that he would be able to change it.
As it turned out, Kamara decided to rock the "41" jersey.
The rest, as they say, is history.
The players should wear whatever jersey number they get and focus on being a great player. If they do that, then whatever number they are/were wearing will be "cool."
If you think I'm full of it, then think about Alvin Kamara.
When he was issued the 41 jersey, fans were like, "Really? 41? That's awkward." Even Kamara didn't like.
But that's okay because at the time Sean Payton said Kamara wouldn't stay in the "41" jersey and that he would be able to change it.
quote:
"I was like, 'Man, 41?!" Kamara told ESPN Baton Rouge's Matt Moscona. "And Coach (Sean) Payton was like, 'Oh no, that's temporary. We'll change it. You're gonna be out of it. Don't worry about it.' And I was like, 'Alright.' I mean, it's cool.
As it turned out, Kamara decided to rock the "41" jersey.
quote:
"I've had opportunities to change, I mean, I've still got opportunities to change right now. I think I'm gonna stick with it. ... I think I'm gonna ride with the 41, I think I like it. I think all the fans and everybody, they've grown to it, too. So I think I'm gonna stay with it."
The rest, as they say, is history.
re: QB making $5m a year not a pro (ok)- UDFA who made $50k signing bonus a pro (bad)
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 11:06 am to ScoopAndScore
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Very true. But come on, who couldn’t see this coming? Paying college players was always a terrible idea. Well except technically they were already being compensated. But I guess free tuition, free tudoring, free room and board, free meals, free clothing….none of that counted or just wasn’t enough
Your post highlights exactly why they should be paid.
With the current state of college football, we're seeing exactly what a player's true value is.
Sam Leavitt is worth $5,000,000 to $6,000,000.
With five to six million dollars, LSU's can shove its free education, room and board, meal plan, and whatever else they were offering as compensation instead of cold hard money.
I'm pretty sure with $5,000,000 to $6,000,000 Sam Leavitt can pay for his own education, housing, transportation, healthcare, food, and whatever else he needs.
And let's be honest, if he's getting paid five plus million dollars for one year of college football, then doesn't need a college degree.
re: For everyone clutching their pearls about LSU, let me point out:
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 2:21 am to Scoob
The class of 2022 players who want to return to college (from the NFL) for a fifth season should be allowed to do so. They should also be allowed to enter the transfer portal, field offers, and transfer within conference if they so choose.
Regarding the interconference transfer rule, I see that as running afoul of federal antitrust law and or labor/employment law.
Regarding the interconference transfer rule, I see that as running afoul of federal antitrust law and or labor/employment law.
re: LSU is the center of College Athletics and I love it
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 1:47 am to Safety Blitz
The outrage feigned by the media is laughable.
LSU's roster cost is in the fifty million dollar range. What the hell does that make their team?
Sam Leavitt and Joran Seaton are getting paid millions of dollars to play for LSU this season. Are we seriously going to pretend that they are amateur athletes? Are we seriously going to argue that those two are student athletes?
Greg Sankey, SEC Presidents and Chancellors, and the entire national media can go **** themselves.
NCAA football is a professional sport.
LSU's roster cost is in the fifty million dollar range. What the hell does that make their team?
Sam Leavitt and Joran Seaton are getting paid millions of dollars to play for LSU this season. Are we seriously going to pretend that they are amateur athletes? Are we seriously going to argue that those two are student athletes?
Greg Sankey, SEC Presidents and Chancellors, and the entire national media can go **** themselves.
NCAA football is a professional sport.
re: For everyone clutching their pearls about LSU, let me point out:
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/25/26 at 1:29 am to Scoob
LSU is paying Sam Leavitt between 4.5 and 6.0 million dollars to play for them in 2026. What does that make Sam Leavitt?
Jordan Seaton is making 4.0+ million dollars to play for LSU.
LSU's roster costs this season is allegedly over 50 million.
They're all professionals!
Jordan Seaton is making 4.0+ million dollars to play for LSU.
LSU's roster costs this season is allegedly over 50 million.
They're all professionals!
re: Ex-LSU QBs Max Johnson & Rickie Collins Starting Elsewhere in CFB This Season
Posted by Dicken Nuggets on 8/24/26 at 12:13 pm to iPad
Most HS QBs need to figure out that it's better for them to start at a small program and play, than to commit to a major program and attempt to develop.
If a HS QB can find himself a Bryce Underwood situation, then great.
The Tom Brady/Peyton Manning advice of staying at one school and developing with one OC/system is not a straight-forward plan as there is way too much turnover on college football staffs.
It also doesn't help HS QBs that the most elite football programs don't want to deal with QB development. They want an experienced, proven QB which is why we see programs such as Oregon and Miami buying transfer QB every off season. Looks like Texas Tech is in the discussion as well with their billionaire booster. I fully expect LSU to be in those transfer QB battles moving forward.
If a HS QB can find himself a Bryce Underwood situation, then great.
The Tom Brady/Peyton Manning advice of staying at one school and developing with one OC/system is not a straight-forward plan as there is way too much turnover on college football staffs.
It also doesn't help HS QBs that the most elite football programs don't want to deal with QB development. They want an experienced, proven QB which is why we see programs such as Oregon and Miami buying transfer QB every off season. Looks like Texas Tech is in the discussion as well with their billionaire booster. I fully expect LSU to be in those transfer QB battles moving forward.
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