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re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 1:02 pm to NC_Tigah
Well, I guess when the horse won’t run, laughing at the saddle is all you have left.
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re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 12:57 pm to NC_Tigah
That’s exactly the reflex.
Texas v. Pennsylvania did fail. It failed because the Court rejected it for lack of standing. You may dislike the reason, but disliking the reason does not mean the case secretly survived in some alternate courtroom. Texas needed a legal injury.
The issue is simple: Texas needed a legal injury. It didn’t have one. So the case failed. Everything after that is just smoke and hand-waving around the one fact that matters.
Texas v. Pennsylvania did fail. It failed because the Court rejected it for lack of standing. You may dislike the reason, but disliking the reason does not mean the case secretly survived in some alternate courtroom. Texas needed a legal injury.
The issue is simple: Texas needed a legal injury. It didn’t have one. So the case failed. Everything after that is just smoke and hand-waving around the one fact that matters.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 12:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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No, it is to say that SCOTUS managed the case like Corporal Timothy E. Upham handled combat. The "no standing" ruling in TX v PA was audacious cowardice. The absurd claim that TX had "no standing" was demonstrated even worse in the aftermath, with TX selectively flooded in a catastrophic illegal invasion.
A demonstration of the same ol’ maga reflex: when the case fails, blame the court; when the evidence fails, blame the forum; when the law doesn’t bend, call it cowardice.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 11:58 am to NC_Tigah
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There was an abundance of evidence. But it is hard to demonstrate proof when the appropriate forums refuse to even review the case. There is also strong messaging in such a refusal.
That’s a very polished way to say, “I have evidence, but no court, prosecutor, inspector general, or investigation ever managed to turn it into proof.”
That horse never had legs.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 11:04 am to NC_Tigah
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Sweetheart, that is not your call. You'd insist the other guy is fair game for caricature. But not your guy, because in your mind the same caricature which you are happy to see others saddled with, hits too close to your own superficial racial stereotype for comfort. Macht nichts for me. Your guy is a politician. Period. I couldn't care less about his skin color. You are fixated on it. Tough!
You keep saying Obama is “just a politician,” as if history politely steps outside whenever it inconveniences you.
Nobody said he can’t be mocked. Mock away. But the same caricature can carry a different weight depending on who it’s aimed at and what history is riding behind it. Pretending context doesn’t matter isn’t neutrality. It’s ignorance with its boots polished.
So no, I’m not fixated on his skin color. I’m fixated on the history you keep trying to bury because it keeps climbing back out and ruining your little argument.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 10:28 am to NC_Tigah
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That is what has been done. In politics.
You are not refuting the point. You are walking around it in circles and calling the footprints an argument.
Nobody said political caricature doesn’t exist. The point is that racial context does not vanish just because you found unrelated examples. At this stage, I’m not even bothered at the dodge anymore. I’m mostly impressed by how determined you are to miss a target standing still.
re: Phil Steele's pre season top 25 ranking
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 9:41 am to southendzoneresident
It’s hard to understand why anyone wouldn’t have LSU in the top 15.
Twenty-two? C’mon.
Twenty-two? C’mon.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 9:19 am to NC_Tigah
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Only for someone like yourself. When the imbecile talked about diabetics getting their foot amputated for $40,000, $50,000 in surgeon reimbursement, he should have been conveyed as an ape. The moron had no clue WTF he was talking about. The same is true when he and his cronies at CMS catalyzed the opioid crisis via pt pain scores driving medicare reimbursement. Saying that was Chimp stupid is an insult to Chimps. You perception of such critique as racist (if you even honestly do) speaks leagues toward your own bigotry.
You keep pretending context disappears the minute it becomes inconvenient. Lincoln drawn as an ape while holding the Emancipation Proclamation? Somehow neutral. Obama as an ape? Somehow neutral. A fake Obama image with graffiti, BLM, Arabic writing, and prior primate imagery? Still neutral. Well, at some point, “I don’t see anything” stops sounding clean and starts sounding practiced.
You’re taking “Obama said something stupid” and trying to turn it into “ape imagery has no racial history.” Those are two different horses, and only one of them has a saddle. Criticize his comments. Criticize CMS. Criticize Medicare reimbursement. Criticize opioid policy. Have at it. But you don’t get to reach for imagery that has been used for generations to dehumanize black people, then act shocked when somebody recognizes the stink on it.
And this little trick where you say, “If you know the history of the insult, you must secretly believe the insult,” is about worn down to the rim. I don’t have to endorse a slur to know what it means. I don’t have to join the fire to smell the smoke.
By all means, continue. I’ve reached the point where interrupting you would be rude, and you make the argument against yourself better than I could.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 8:42 am to NC_Tigah
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or used as a garage pull. Again, you cannot hold simian imagery as fair game in one instance, and off-limits in another. That dog don't hunt. Sorry. Your perception of a differential speaks to your personal association of caricature to physical components of race. I find that disturbing. I think when you really consider it, you will too. Take a long look in the mirror who you are.
No, the Lincoln cartoon does not help you. It hurts you.
That drawing is Lincoln as an ape holding the Emancipation Proclamation. In other words, it was not just “generic politician-as-monkey” humor. It was anti-emancipation imagery tied directly to freeing enslaved Black people. You dug up racial politics from 1863 and somehow thought it cleaned the room.
And nobody said white politicians have never been drawn as apes. The point is context. A garage pull is a garage pull. A noose hung from a tree is not. A monkey cartoon of Bush usually says “Bush is dumb.” A monkey cartoon of Obama lands on a long history of Black people being compared to apes to deny their humanity.
Recognizing that history does not make me racist. Pretending the history vanishes because it is inconvenient makes your argument dishonest.
So no, I don’t need a mirror. You need a history book and a better shovel.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 7:47 am to NC_Tigah
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and a politician caricatured as a monkey has an obvious intellectual policy context.
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I no more visualize a racial connotation associated with a George Bush monkey face then I do Obama. Both of the messages are identical. Neither is racist in my view. Because I make no stereotypic associations racially in either case. You do. That's your own personal problem, and it appears to be a fairly big one. Do some self introspection.
No, that still doesn’t hold together. A monkey caricature of George Bush may be an insult about intelligence because there is no long racial history in America of comparing white presidents to apes to deny their humanity. With Obama, that history exists whether you personally choose to acknowledge it or not.
That’s the part you keep trying to sand off.
You’re pretending all symbols mean the same thing in every context. They don’t. A rope is just a rope until it’s tied into a noose and hung from a tree. A white hood is just fabric until history walks into the room. Context is not “my personal problem.” Context is how meaning works.
And this little trick of yours, “If you recognize racism, you must be the racist,” is not introspection. It’s evasion in a cheap suit. I don’t have to believe the stereotype to recognize that racists have used it. I don’t have to endorse the slur to know what the slur means.
So no, I’m not “visualizing racial connotation.” I’m recognizing historical baggage. You’re the one pretending the baggage isn’t there because admitting it would make Trump’s little meme look exactly as ugly as it was.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 7:28 am to jimmy the leg
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Not yet. It surely would not surprise me though. Your cheese has slid off of your cracker.
“Not yet” is a coward’s smear.
You have no evidence, no argument, and no point. Just a nasty little attempt to paint political criticism (on the poliboard no less) as future violence.
I criticize Trump. You fantasize about massacres and try to pin them on me.
That says plenty, bubba baw.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 7:14 am to Houag80
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You are melting...love it. Please continue.
No melt here. I’m just watching grown men run out of argument and start clapping at their own heckling.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 7:12 am to jimmy the leg
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That is your entire post history, and it revolves entirely around Trump. You are truly a scary person. I could see you shooting hordes of innocent people simply because they voted for him.
That is a cheap and disgusting accusation.
You don’t get to lose an argument and then invent a murder fantasy about me because I criticize Trump. I have never threatened anyone, encouraged violence, or suggested harm toward anyone Bubba.
I criticize a politician. You fabricated a massacre. That ain’t insight. It’s a smear tactic from someone who has run out of argument - or can’t argue - and is hoping fear will do what his reasoning couldn’t.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 6:54 am to RohanGonzales
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Take your fake outrage and shove it up your arse. You don't give a shite. The obamas deserve whatever they get. They could have done something significant, but they chose to race bait. frick you.
You’re not making a point. You’re just buzzing. A porch fly with Wi-Fi, drunk on your fake outrage and recycled talking points, pretending profanity is a spine.
Shoo.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 6:50 am to NC_Tigah
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No. My argument is that racists perceive racial characteristics in the way that you apparently do. You're claim would be analogous to screeching about images of a Black murderer being transported between prisons in leg irons because it conjures historical images of slavery.
nope, that analogy doesn’t work, friend. A black criminal being transported in leg irons has an obvious law-enforcement context. Restraints during transport are a real procedure, whether anybody likes the optics or not. That is not the same thing as a doctored political image of the Obamas surrounded by graffiti, BLM, Arabic writing, and prior ape imagery. One is a custody procedure. The other is manufactured imagery where every ingredient was chosen.
That’s the difference you keep trying to step around.
Recognizing racial coding does not mean I “perceive racial characteristics” in people. It means I recognize how certain images have been used historically. If somebody hangs a noose, I don’t have to be racist to know it is not just “a piece of rope.”
Your argument keeps coming back to the same dodge: if someone understands the insult, they must secretly believe the insult. No. That dog limps Bubba. Not good to hunt.
The person using the trope owns the trope. The person pointing it out isn’t the problem. Pretending context doesn’t exist is not logic. It’s just hiding under the porch and calling it architecture.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 6:23 am to NC_Tigah
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No. You are buying into the trope, which calls to question your own racist bigotry.
Your argument is basically:
“If you understand the dog whistle, you must be the dog.”
That won’t ride.
The person who posts the ugly thing owns the ugly thing. The people pointing it out are not the problem. You’re just trying to drag the spotlight off Trump and aim it at the folks who noticed what he did. That may work in a barroom argument after midnight, but it doesn’t hold up in daylight.
Also, regarding your earlier remark, if I’m digging a hole, point to the shovel.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 6:20 am to RCDfan1950
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RCDfan1950“ Also, lie detectors do not read truth,”(quote CP). Is that really true, C? Why would LE employ Lie Detectors if so? And I’ve heard that future AI will indeed be able to read thoughts in telepathic ways. Also that UAP Aliens have interacted with Humans via telepathy. A YouTube video about a military helicopter pilot named Jake Barber is an interesting example of that. Re Trump: Trolling as a strategy to provoke his opposition into emotional and uncontrolled responses is one of his MOs. Also a way to employ outrage as a way of getting the public’s focus directed at an issue Think “they are rapists…”. Besides being pure public mockery of individuals whom he disrespects and senses are fake liars at their core. Note that he respects XI and Kim and Putin because they openly state their true intentions and beliefs. What fool believes Obama does that. At least Bernie is real.
Well, it’s true Bubba. Polygraphs don’t read truth. They measure stress signals: breathing, pulse, blood pressure, sweating. Law enforcement uses them as an interview tool, not because the machine has some sacred pipeline to reality. Nervous truthful people can fail. Calm liars can pass.
And “future AI mind-reading” is not evidence. Same with alien telepathy YouTube stories. Interesting campfire material, maybe. Not proof.
As for Trump, saying “he’s just trolling strategically” is not a defense. That’s just putting a little cowboy hat on childish behavior. If he posts fake race-bait garbage, the issue isn’t whether he made people mad. Any fool can kick over a bucket and call it strategy. And the bit about Trump respecting Xi, Kim, and Putin because they’re “real” is mighty revealing. Praising dictators for being honest about their intentions is not moral clarity. It’s just admiring the snake because it rattles first. So no bubba, we don’t need polygraphs, AI telepathy, aliens, or Putin psychology here.
Trump posted a fake image of the Obamas. It was obvious race-baiting. And y’all are trying to escape into UFO smoke because defending it straight sounds as ugly as it is.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 6:08 am to NC_Tigah
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Correct. Unless of course you are personally associating primate features or graffiti with one race, and not the other. I don't. Is that what you are doing?
No, I’m recognizing the historical trope being used. That is different from endorsing it, and you know that. There’s a difference between seeing the snake and putting it in the grass.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 5:31 am to RCDfan1950
That’s a fascinating sermon, but it still doesn’t explain why Trump posted a fake race-bait image of the Obamas.
Also, lie detectors do not read truth, AI does not read souls, and “Truth will rule” is a little rich coming from the maga crowd defending a doctored picture.
Also, lie detectors do not read truth, AI does not read souls, and “Truth will rule” is a little rich coming from the maga crowd defending a doctored picture.
re: Trump posts doctored photo of the Obamas and AFOne with graffiti spray-painted on
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 5:27 am to NC_Tigah
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As neither was ""racist"", Will Weissert can ram his "report" right up his backside.
Sure. Nothing racist there. Just the Obamas, graffiti, BLM, Arabic writing, and a previous primate post. Total coincidence buffet.
re: So damn proud of my country and military today!
Posted by CrystalPreserves on 7/6/26 at 5:17 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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STFU You don’t care about tax payer dollars. If you really did you would never vote Democrat and you would have been calling for their heads after all the SAID and other fraud was exposed. GFY.
Well that was a lot of chest hair for a comment that starts with “STFU” and ends with “GFY.”
Also, I assume you meant USAID, unless “SAID fraud” is what happens when poliboard bubbas and baws get mad faster than they can type.
And yes, I care about taxpayer dollars. That’s why I don’t suddenly stop caring when Trump turns the federal government into his personal parade float. If Democrats waste money, call it out. If Republicans waste money, call it out. Same rule, same ruler. But you boys don’t want fiscal responsibility. You want a permission slip to ignore waste when it comes wrapped in your team’s flag.
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