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Worth $120 million
Multiple major winner
Beautiful family
31 years old

I’d say he can take it easy for life.
Boy….you look like you’ve been shot at and missed and shite on and hit!
This is a gross misunderstanding of how punishment works. In its most simple form, punishment seeks to make the victims whole again and punish the criminal by making them give up a large piece of money or property.

In terms of a corporation or organization, the orgainzation is a legal entity that must cover their debts. It doesn't matter if the CEO or criminals within the organization are gone. You can argue with me all day long, our laws do not recognize the departure of criminal employees as reason to let the entire organization off the hook. That is pure fantasy.

Our laws also recognize that you can make an example of a criminal or an organization responsible for criminals in order to deter other criminals or corrupt organizations. This is important.



…..so what you’re talking about is reparations?

re: Santa or Beaver.....

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/25/25 at 4:19 pm
I don’t think Santa Maria ever made it to country club status. They went bankrupt before they opened and BREC bought it very cheap.

re: Santa or Beaver.....

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/25/25 at 11:25 am
Someone told me this once and I can’t get it out of my head… it’s Howell Park with CCL’s conditions.


They were close. It’s actually Webb with money. Conditions are impeccable (better than CCL), but BRCC and Webb are basically the same track. The same drainage ditch runs through both of them. Just one is covered.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 2:36 pm
That 150 rule is the biggest lie spread by golfers. Bermuda needs 70/90 consistently for growth of any substance.

The mini-verde was for reference to Greystone, big boy…..gotta be a prick at every turn don’t you?

Well ya’ll keep on 50K and let us know how great it looks a few times a year.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 2:00 pm
I’m completely serious. If you think the Bermuda is popping from October to May, then you’ve never worked a golf a day in your life. The growing season for Celebration might be a little over 4 months. For Mini Verde, in Denham, you won’t get 4 months.
Look at your phone for this weeks forecast. Great golfing weather, but it ain’t doing shite for the grass.

Now…..
Golf is a money pit. Always will be.if you’re not being funded by taxes (RTJ Trail) or private members with money to burn (BRCC) or an owner that loses money each year (Squire Creek), then you are going to struggle.
Every destination course has some sort of bank roll keeping it afloat.
Golf is a tough business for everyone but the golfer.

Greystone is closed every Monday? Or every Monday there isn’t a tournament?

30K is a 100 golfers a day, resting one day a week. It’s a very long race where improvements are gradual and mostly permanent. As the conditions improve, the price goes up. Again, it’s slow and gradual and something is going to have to offset the cost. Sucks, but that’s the business.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 1:21 pm
Jesus, dude, you just like to argue, don’t you?
50,000 rounds on a course with terrible soil, not growing for 2/3’s of the year and not the pinnacle of resources is a bad combination.
If that statement is wrong to you, then let’s call it a day.
50,000 rounds is:
-Fairways and cart path side rough that never grows
-Goosegrass and poa in your greens constantly from foot traffic compaction.
-Mowing is the only thing done on Mondays cause the rest of the week eats up the time with golfers.

It’s a recipe for disaster. You’ll get your pockets of pleasure where the course looks good…..considering. But it’s a slow decline.

I don’t care what AI says.Greystone can’t keep that pace.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 12:41 pm
Name the destination courses you admire and let’s stack them against Greystone.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 12:31 pm
You brought up Pebble, a Mecca for climate, environment and beauty. Nothing resembling this area. Apples to apples.
If you want to be difficult, we’ll go round and round.
Everything I stated is true. Sorry if it offended you.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 11:59 am
I didn’t say “limit” play. I said “control” the play. Big difference.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 11:58 am
$35M/year in revenue alone from green fees. Probably a maintenance budget of 10-20% of that. Probably a ton of walking from golfers.

There is nothing comparable for this area. The mindset is always run them through as much as you can and bitch about a course that gets minimal attention. When the mindset changes, the results change.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 11:49 am
Pebble starts at 4:30 in the morning with a 40 man crew in an environment that the grass grows year round and $700 a round. Schedule and/or price….Name a course around here like that.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 7:56 am
In the last 20 years we’ve lost:

Shenandoah
Sherwood
Fairwood
Briarwood
Howell
Dumas
Gonzales CC
West side
Bluffs
and basically LSU

That’s a lot of rounds that’s gotta go somewhere. Money is great, but the product suffers.

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 7:39 am
That’s not golf. That’s something else.

If a course gets more than 30k rounds, it just becomes a parking lot….literally.

The nice courses around the country are nice for a reason….they control the play. Either through scheduling or price or both. They cater to the course first and the golfer second. And when you cater to the course (through maintenance, rest, COP, etc) you are catering to the golfer.

50k rounds is almost too many for 2 courses!

re: Anyone play Greystone lately?

Posted by BonesMalone on 3/24/25 at 6:57 am
If I had to guess, I’d say Greystone is in the mid to upper 30K for rounds. Carter is probably more than that (40K). Copper is probably a little less than Greystone.

And the BREC courses are at insane levels of rounds.

The majority of the rounds come when the weather is nicer (October - May) when the grass is dormant to semi-dormant. There’s to bounce back by the fairways and they become a tight mat to a bare surface. And every year it takes them longer and longer to wake up. The rough on the cart path side of the fairway is non existent most of the year.

Livingston Parish doesn’t have the best soil to begin with (not compared to a place like the Island) and their 2 courses are the most popular.
My man, I enjoyed your reply. Very much.

But….

It’s like on the Rant when people say, “hey, we’re winning 10 games a year!” and the response is “With all this talent and resources, we should be winning championships!”

The US has so much waste and corruption that those facts and numbers you speak of should be through the roof!

Yes, we have it good…..relatively. But do you ever look at what we could be without the greed and defiance and shear hate. We shouldn’t be in debt. We should have amazing healthcare. People should put their heads on the pillow at night and peacefully know things are good because not only do they bust their arse, but people actually care that they do.
Probably because we elect people that stop caring about the folks that elected them.

Tell me something about this country that works for the common good….
You didn’t read that sentence right….

The power struggle is ONLY between the haves…..

The have nots have no say.
It’s more than sickening….

You should live very happily in this country if you’re willing to bust your arse.
But the majority of those people struggle.
That’s what corruption creates!