EyeOfTheTiger225

That certainly clears the air some for me and the multiple angles by each party in this complicated matter. You have a much better understanding on what's exactly going on here as its not a simple case and has multiple layers and different elements and possibilities at play. I guess in my gut i do feel like there was something going on with Wade but could i prove it? Probably not if i had the evidence that blew the top off of his season, our Cinderella season this year. I think Alleva and Alexander reacted to, of all things the damn media! As if the media, any outlet has shown to play fair, be credible, or be unbiased. But still I know for a fact that what's been going on in college recruiting in the bigger sports is an ugly game and many will bend and some will break the rules to get players to build a championship. This does not mean i am condoning any illegal or unfair advantages by LSU, if found guilty, or any university to procure players by paying them or their families. Two wrongs don't make a right and more get away with it than get caught. I hate for this black cloud to be dominating headlines instead of celebrating a great season and great story of a program at the cellar of the league to winning the league in a few short years and derailing a team that has proven to be one of the best in the college hoops but going forward i just know if the NCAA can they will do everything possible to make an example out of LSU and Will Wade when this is all final. I like to hope that Wade and any players involved will be back on the court for next season and another year of growth and development with so much young talent. But with that said i want to win but not if we have to cheat to do it. Not that we did but if it is proven in time that Wade is guilty of what the entire basketball world is saying he is then i would agree with consequences resulting. I just wanted it handled better by our institution and by suspending Wade when they did and the reason shows the lack of support, to me by the administration. I think letting Wade finish this season, let it play out in federal court and then if the NCAA chooses to conduct it's own investigation (which I'm sure they will) or an internal investigation finds Wade or Basketball operations guilty of any wrongdoings and can prove it then at that time they should hand down the consequences but by jumping up in result of the latest media leak they seemed to deviate from what they were doing in the first place by letting this all play out. To me they made a huge mistake by suspending Wade at the time they did and harmed LSU and their own integrity as well as sending a bad message that almost shows the world that they have already deemed there was wrongdoing by Wade and hurt his chances of getting a fair shake. Its just a huge mess now that could have easily been avoided had they waited until the season was over and court was concluded, and any following investigations are concluded. The worst part to it all is if Wade is found to be guilty of voilations he will be fired, LSU will be penalized by the NCAA and Wade will be coaching at a rival school in the near future. I couldn't have been the only guy to notice Bruce Pear and Auburns dismantling of his former team twice in the the last couple of weeks including the SEC tournament championship. These schools preach integrity but what really takes precedence is winning! I just hate this whole thing and see little chance to get through this with all key players and coaches and school unimpacted by more than the current black eye. Maybe the players will respond to adversity and take us to the promised land then this just blows over and we come back better, stronger, and unified as a team. I think it's a stretch and wishful thinking by me and thinking emotionally rather than rationally in this case.
* i wonder how your Arkansas buddy feels about his team losing their best player to the draft and skipping the NIT? I'd bet he is hoping for an upset in the first round by Yale and that is possible to think it could happen! That team's strengths play to exploit our weaknesses. It will be much closer than the experts say, i think. It'll be either an LSU bleauxout or a nailbiter but no in between. We will know in a couple of days. Thanks for that response and i am curious what percentage you give the Tigers hoops of having Wade return next season with all of this talent and no probation or any sanctions once this is over? Would you guess 50% or greater or less? Just curious if you had to take your best, educated guess knowing what you know about the case and the history of similar occurrences.
I know this one is very complex and unique, and very hard to compare it to another but i just want to know how good or bad you feel about LSU's chances of dodging a major disaster...
My gut says they'll find something (the NCAA) and will give LSU near maximum consequences, possibly the basketball version of the "death penalty" by vacating all wins this season including the SEC regular season crown, possibly last season, reduced scholarships for up to 10 years, banned from the post season including SEC tournament for atleast 5 years, put very strict guidelines on recruiting and player/coach contact, nust short of making our entire coaching staff wear a body camera and having all phone calls screened or tapped, even make us play with 4 against 5 or start games with 2 fouls per player or spotting each team with 20 points, take our freethrows from the three point line, cut our shot clock in half, make those refs from Florida game in SEC tournament be our designated officials, and require all players to wear those hideous shorts like JaVonte Smart! Lol i had to try to make some fun out of all of this horrible situation! But in honesty if we do get hammered i expect the highly touted guys to leave, transfer to other schools, most within the SEC! How bad would it feel to see Waters dishing dimes and alley oops to Naz Reid, Emmitt Williams, and Marlon Taylor or JaVonte Smart winning SEC player of the year as starting point guard for Arkansas? And 3 of our current guys on all SEC first or second team for years to come? Ouch!
Regardless most of our current players have a very bright future in basketball with a few that will play at the next level and possibly be stars in the NBA, this core group could have been or could be what Tennessee was supposed to be this year or even better in 2 years time! Painful to think about the "what if?" That's the worst part, just the uncertainty looming ahead.
A penny for your thoughts or predictions of what you think is most likely to happen once it's all decided and concluded and where this LSU team and coaches will be and possible consequences if any at all?? (I better not say that, *no pennies will be paid for your thoughts, just joking FEDS) in enough trouble as is about alleged money for talent. Lol

Ok I am not nearly as knowledgeable on this trial as you but my questions, may seem dumb but i am just curious...
#1, correct or incorrect, is Wade being subpoenaed by Dawkins defense team to testify on the matter or who subpoenaed him?
#2, if Wade doesn't incriminate himself and there is no direct evidence of "pay for play" and Im not talking about what he did say on the wiretaps but instead; a papertrail OR him directly saying on another wiretap transcript something that leaves out anything for interpretation and makes statements that are "cut and dry" and indefensible OR have a player, current or former go on record admitting they received cash or something from Wade or indirectly from Wade to play for him?
#3, the information that i have heard or read, to me seems to actually give the feeling that Wade will be subpoenaed next month, likely not be found of any wrongdoing (regardless of what he did say on the wiretaps) thus ending his run in with the legal system and then putting the league and/or the institution with the burden of proof. If they are then unable to prove Wade actually paid a player or players or did voilate rules in regards of recruiting by the NCAA or LSU then there's actually a solid chance Wade will be exonerated and there will not be any consequences. As a result, LSU will have a bigger PR problem and egg in the face over their knee jerk reaction to a media leak. Do you see this as a possibility of actually playing out? Obviously I'm no lawyer nor do i know each and every NCAA violation and penalties but it does seem to me that since Wade is not the one on trial, except by the court of public opinion he may just slide out of trouble, atleast legally. He could come out of this without losing his job, NCAA penalties, or any negative consequences other than defamation of character by Yahoo and LSU for their handling of this disaster. Is this a possibility in your opinion?