ScottieP

Its flow,flow,flow, that triggers the opening. Not stage, not length of time, not some politician, not the general public getting worried. It's congressional law that when the flow reaches 1.5 million cfs at Red River Landing they open the Morganza.

Wow its amazing that people can't understand this and then come on here and facebook and spew outright wrong info.

We haven't reached 1.5 million cfs at Morganza. Hell the river is lower today then it was 3 months ago.

It's not that damn hard to understand.

Don't believe me, fine, but I work for USGS, I've been working floods for 20 years giving the CORPS the flow data so they can make the decision to open or not open Bonnet Carre/Morganza. I've been coming on here telling everyone the same thing every flood fr years.

Now that I got that out the way. The relationship of stage to discharge is changing. Its a natural process. So in 2011 the water was getting really close to overtopping the Morganza gates and the trigger wasn't reached yet. But it was close and was going to happen within days so they opened it. They adjusted the language to say that if overtopping was risk and the forecast called for the trigger to be reached they could open before the trigger was reached.

This year it is not the case. There is still freeboard by the gates and the forecast has it close but not exceeding the trigger so they will not open it.

Now to the issue of the length of time in flood. Yes it is a record and yes it is concerning, but the CORPS has real human beings that drive the river road on both sides of the river from Venice to Old River inspecting the levee daily. DAILY!! Yes there is seepage but there always is. The levees are preforming as they were designed to do. They are not close to being overtopped and they will not be tested by rapid rising water like the levees up north.

So everyone calm down. BR isn't going to flood give it 3 weeks and all the water will be long gone. By not opening Morganza they are saving houses and businesses from flooding in areas near the Atchafalaya.

End rant!!

Morganza will not be opened for this rise. The river will crest at Red River Landing on Tuesday at 61.5ft. It is currently 61.2 ft. It will stay at 61.5ft for 3 day then begin falling.

Now will another rise come down once snow melt starts that could cause the river to rise higher in May/June? We will see. But for now no Morganza.

BTW..Bonnet Carre is not even open to capacity.

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I know this will come as news to you, but the shut down started just before Christmas. Lots of folks get a little over-extended buying stuff for Christmas. So the timing of the shutdown exacerbated the financial effect it had.

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I'm sure this is the case for some but certainly not all.

Let me start by saying I am one of the 800,000 federal employees that hasn't gotten a pay check in almost a month. All my bills are paid and I groceries in the fridge. Not getting your normal paycheck suck but I am in a position where I can miss a few and still be ok especially knowing that eventually we will eventually get paid.


With that said, yeah there are really good hard working federal employees that are hurting right now. Our office has about 50 people in it and I would say that 80-90% are in the same situation as me, but the other 5-10 employees aren't. Some are just out of college and just started working with us 3 months ago, some are young parents with small kids whose wives quit working to raise the kids instead of paying $15000-20000 a year in daycare, some just lost everything they owned in the 2016 flood and have used every penny of savings to rebuild their house. Obviously I cant speak for everyone and nor do I know every ones financial situation pre shutdown but I know I have coworkers who are in a serious bind because of one missed check. Maybe not to the point of having to sell plasma but to the point where they are hustling any side job they can to support their family until they can return to work.

Finally, yeah there is abuse. I've been hearing stories on the news of people not being able to pay rent or having no grocery money on Jan 1st. This I don't get. The first missed check was somewhere around the 11-15th. How can you not have money on the 1st. Were you worried about money, sure, but at that point you shouldnt be without.

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Their pay has been taken from my paycheck for decades.

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Their pay has been taken from their check too. Last I checked federal employees pay taxes too.

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Maybe if the shutdown went on for a 6 month and we hit 50% quit rate at 3 months we save one quarter of back pay

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Let me ask you...You know you got backpay coming and you are still free to get a second job, you quitting the first one before you get your backpay?

Bunch of private sector geniuses we got on the board tonight!!

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The people who are really screwed are all of the contractors that won’t get back pay.

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Yeah I really feel for those guys. Their money is lost. We don't have any contractors at our office, but I know many offices do.

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I've used Folsom Animal Hospital for the last 10 years. Dr Jenna and Dr Aubre are both awesome. You can tell they love what they do.

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This

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Just in time for the 30 day administrative furlough rules to kick in.

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Rules that only say they have to issue a second notice.. there are no other rules, this is a shutdown furlough not an administrative furlough.

See an email I just received from Department of the Interior.

Next week, the partial government shutdown that has affected our Department will enter its second month. When a shutdown furlough goes beyond 30 days, agencies are required to issue a second furlough notice covering the next 30 days. Supervisors should send each of their employees the furlough notice. Employees can remotely receive their furlough notification from their supervisors.

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Pretty much every single federal government job pays better than private sector.

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Our health insurance is cheaper and we get more paid vacation, but that's about all that's better than the private sector.

Funny how no one cared that our office was closed and I was one of the ones furloughed until it rained 4 inches last week. All of a sudden my phones ringing non stop with people wondering why the river gage is down or if the forecast is right cause the river is rising and water is getting really close to their house.
I supervise 10 guys. I have gotten calls everyday about "When we gonna go back to work?" We don't want to be furloughed we have a job to do and want to do it.
Will we get back pay...probably, and we should, We all have commitments to fulfill and didn't ask to be sent home. We want to work. The dumbest thing ever is to send us home then still pay us. So let us work. No we have to have a dick measuring contest in Washington because someone made a campaign promise that half the country wants and the other half will do anything not to fulfill.
The problem isn't with the federal employees around the nation..it's with the federal employees in Washington. Who by the way haven't done their job in years and are still getting paid during the shutdown.