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Bailey, Reese, Downs, Styles, Love, Tate, Delane, or OL. I’m pretty much okay with any of these guys. I’ll trust that the coaching staff knows what they need and who is the best fit.
Thanks for posting. It was interesting to hear them talk about Ellis and Etienne as leaders and building relationships. I think that’s a big issue with no TM7 or Demario and possibly no Cam this year.

Also interesting to hear them say the identity of the team was “blue collar” and how much they seem to believe in Moore as a coach.

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Moonie McMoonface


Opened up this thread to post this exact name. Nice to see another learned mind on the OT. :lol: :cheers:
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since we're playing "what if", should Love slip to us, at #8 do you take him.


If Bailey, Styles, & Reese are off the board, I have no issue with them taking Love, Downs or Delane. Whoever they like better.

I’d probably say Delane is the bigger need but Love might be the better prospect. But I’d be good with any of them.
It really is in the eye of the beholder.

I like Styles, just because he can do it all and from everything I’ve heard he’s a great leader and really smart.

I’d rank Reese just a smidge over Bailey because of his run defense, but Bailey’s athleticism is amazing. It’s just whether or not you think he is a situational pass rusher or if he can be an every down OLB.

Downs and Love are probably after them IMO.

Let’s talk about Pick 42

Posted by Suntiger on 3/24/26 at 1:30 pm
We’ve had all the debates on Bain vs. Bailey, Downs’ knee, off ball vs on ball LBers, RBs picked in the top 10, and OL. It will be very dependent on who we take in the first, but what guys are you looking for with our 2nd round pick.

Some players I’m looking for at 42:

Chase Bisontis, OG aTm - Best OG after Ioane. And I really want to fix our OL.

Germie-Bernard, WR bama - Just an overall solid WR. Comps out to Jarvis Landry.

Denzel-Boston, WR Washington Bigger WR with good route running and good hands. Not the swiftest guy, but solid.

We need a run stuffer. Not sure any of these guys will make it to us, but I’d take any of them at 42.
Christen Miller, NT UGA
Kayden McDonald, NT tOSU
Lee Hunter, NT Texas Tech

Malachi Lawrence, OLB UCF Pass rushing specialist we could use if we go another position with our first pick.

If we don’t get Styles at 8, I like both these guys as long term Demario Davis replacements. I think CJ Allen might be a little underrated.
Anthony Hill Jr., LB Texas
CJ Allen, LB Georgia


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“We know that SS is basically a scam and that it is fricking thievery, and we know that in order for it to continue paying us it would require the continued theft from and scamming of our own children and grandchildren, but frick them, I want mine as I am approaching the end of my life.”

That is a fricked up viewpoint.


So as a Millennial who has likely paid in for a decade, you’re willing to forego that money you put in? Because that’s what you are saying Boomers should have done.


Based on value, trading back two or three spots only nets you a 3rd round pick, or maybe a future 2nd. And you aren’t taking into account opportunity loss of missing out on a guy like Styles or Love.

re: Mcshay new mock draft

Posted by Suntiger on 3/23/26 at 3:54 pm to
10th, but that was Ditka who also took Turley at 7 and traded two years of picks for Ricky Williams.

That was a head scratcher then and it still is today.

re: Harold Perkins

Posted by Suntiger on 3/23/26 at 2:23 pm to
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he really doesn't have a position on the defensive side of the ball.


Agreed. He’s too small IMO to be an every down LBer. He’s basically a situational rusher. We have too many needs to take him as a luxury.

re: Mcshay new mock draft

Posted by Suntiger on 3/23/26 at 2:20 pm to
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21. Steelers: OG Vega Ioane


That’s an absolute steal! I know it’s not fashionable to take an OG high in the draft, but from what I’ve seen from his film, he looks like an absolute beast that could anchor a line for years to come.

Not gonna lie, I wouldn’t even be mad if we took him. I know it’s a reach, but he seems like a sure thing.

re: Mcshay new mock draft

Posted by Suntiger on 3/23/26 at 12:06 pm to
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You’re gonna melt no matter who they pick. Let’s just get that out of the way


:lol: I do agree that Bailey is far from a perfect prospect, but he has an ability and physical traits that a lot of payers don’t have. I posted the video below in another thread, but it’s a really good breakdown on the strengths and weaknesses of Bain and Bailey.



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5. Giants: RB Jeremiyah Love
6. Browns: WR Carnell Tate
7. Commanders: LB Sonny Styles
8. Saints: Edge David Bailey
9. Chiefs: CB Mansoor Delane
10. Bengals: DS Caleb Downs
11. Dolphins: WR Makai Lemon


I’d be happy with any of these players. Styles is my preference, but I doubt he makes it to us.

re: Delane runs 4.38 at Pro Day

Posted by Suntiger on 3/23/26 at 11:30 am to
That probably locks him into top 15 if not top 10 spot.

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Shame on me for not realizing I was being trolled.


Pressures are a shite statistic.

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Pressure is defined as a pass-rush play where the rusher affects the quarterback before the pass is thrown. A pass rush becomes a pressure when pressure probability exceeds 75 percent. This includes sacks, QB hits, QB hurries and other plays where the pass rusher comes into close proximity with the quarterback; it will also include plays where the pass rusher has a free path to the QB or is winning the matchup with the blocker.


Basically, the QB drops back, the pass rusher takes 5 seconds to run up the field and passes within 1.5 yards of the QB who steps up in the pocket and throws a completion…and the DE who only made the QB step up into the pocket but allowed the 25 yard pass got a “pressure”. Whoopty-fricking-doo!

At least “Quick Pressures” measure a pressure that occurs within the first 2.5 seconds of a play. While it still can result in a first down or a positive play, it at least rushes the play.

Again, I love both Patrick Swilling and Wayne Martin. But one had a much bigger impact on the game, and it wasn’t the big run stuffing DE that got pressures. It was the speedy OLB who could bend the edge and actually get to the QB!
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just a causal take

QB's kept clean complete like 73% of their passes vs 48% when under pressure. If affects the game tremendously.


QBs that are sacked complete 0% of their passes.

Winners win. Losers make up statistics to make themselves feel better.

I want a winner at 8.
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Every time I think about the Saints drafting an Edge/DE I think about Davenport and Turner. Maybe we should sit out on that position for a little while longer and get another position of need?


There are hits and misses at every position.

For every Davenport, there is a Will Smith. For every Penning there is a Ramczyk. For every B. Cooks there is a MT13. For every Sullivan there is a Rankins. For every Molden there is a T. Porter. For every Irv Smith there is a Jimmy Graham.

You gotta get out of your feelings on these things.
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people are still saying this lol?

Pressures matter too


Allow me to retort.

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You know that means absolutely nothing right?


Watch the video I posted. It talks about how is size is in the 1 percentile, like freakishly short and discusses how it shows up on film. He basically is a bull rusher and if he has to make another move he can’t because his hands are too small to pull/push and he gets stunted.

Super smart and technical player…just very physically limited.
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I own SPYI, JEPQ, QDVO, XDTE, SCHD, BITO, QYLG, and XYLD. I consider myself a somewhat knowledgeable CC ETF investor. I would never put my savings in these kinds of funds. Look at the YTD returns and how long it takes for NAV to recover from a downturn. I’m snowballing these for passive income to supplement my retirement accounts, so I’m long term and can live through the swings. Short term will do little for you in this regard.

You talk like these are sure things and they are not. If you want the dopamine of weekly payouts with higher yield than a HYSA, open up a treasury account and ladder 4 or 6 week t-bills. You get money every other week and unless the government defaults, no loss of capital. And it’s not taxed by the state which your dividends will be.

But you do you.


I think this is a good breakdown on Bain vs. Bailey. IMO, Bain has maxed out his abilities. I think he will be good…he just won’t be able to get to the level of a Watt, Hutchinson, or Garrett.

Bailey or Reese might not get to that level either…but they have the possibility to get there and have produced at high levels.