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Then you should know why it's anchored.


Sensitive people around here sometimes.
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Or at least a decent explanation as to why it was anchored, outside of a fan-mod not liking what it had to say about his school. I redacted the name of the player and very plainly stated the purpose of the thread.
If I redacted the names would the thread be acceptable?
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Please go die


Relax pal. Everyone plays the game, and assuming you're an Auburn fan based on your screen name, I think you know what I'm saying is 100% truth.
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that's cool but that doesn't change the fact they know who you are and have been mentioned on multiple occasions when it comes to cheating. Hell, even if you were 100% innocent (which you've admitted that you are not), seems like it'd only be inconveniencing yourself.


Every major booster at every SEC school, save maybe Vanderbilt, has been "mentioned multiple times." Nobody is 100% innocent, and the only inconvenience is having to answer the phone and pass the buck.
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seems kinda shitty.


Not if everyone else does it and gets a kick out of it.

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and not bring heat on your associates?


It's all a big game. Annoy your friends while making the NCAA, who we all mutually loathe, chase their incompetent tails.
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why were you contacted? How did they tie you personally into any of this?


An easy way to "punt" is to tell the NCAA "I don't know anything about ______, but you may want to give ______ a call and see what he knows." It's almost turned into a running prank in these booster circles. "Which one of you assholes gave them my number this time?" We all mess with each other. In the two instances I mentioned, I actually didn't know much about either situation and told them to stop calling me.
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The point isn't the monetary amount. It's that we would actively recruit for one of our biggest rivals against another big rival, both of which were in the dumpster at the time. And it's not like we're talking about a QB or RB, we're talking about a DE here. Highly rated and sky high potential sure, but a DE nonetheless.

And again, based on how UGA/AU/UT programs were after the 2012 season, I doubt we'd take the risk of entering this game. We were so far above those programs at the time I don't see why we'd even bother.


We're talking about a few specific individuals in a very large network of boosters. Jack, especially, is very well connected in Georgia high school sports as well. As a fan, I think you're exactly right. Neither program seemed to be much of a threat. However, as an individual with deep ties to recruiting in the state of Georgia and with connections on the UGA coaching staff, Jack felt like he had a vested interest in keeping (redacted) away from Tennessee. You'd have to ask him why it was so important to him with the shape of the two programs in question. That's not a conversation he and I ever had.
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You expect people to take this seriously?


I don't particularly care whether you take anything I say seriously or not.
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He hadn't even coached a single player yet during CL's recruitment.


Steve Stripling has been around a long, long time. Very highly thought of and respected by those in coaching circles.
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Lawson was recruited after the 2012 football season. AU had just come off a mediocre '11 and a 3-9 '12 season. Meanwhile UT had just fired derek dooley and was bringing in a coach from cincinnati.

Without the benefit of hindsight (which, during CL's recruitment nobody would have) it makes even LESS sense. I doubt we would enter the game at that point considering both of those programs were well below what UGA was at the time.


Auburn had come off a horrendous 2012 season and didn't look like they'd be worth a shite for a very long time, and they had just hired a high school coach that nobody in the college coaching profession had any respect for. UT had hired an up and coming rock star in Butch Jones, and had Steve Stipling as its defensive line coach. Stripling is one of the most well respected position coaches in the game.

And again, the money put up by people from UGA was nothing. Pennies. Most people see several thousand dollars as some huge deal. It's not. These people spend more on their pet grooming bills.
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It would be the most richt/uga thing ever if we got hit with probation for cheating on behalf of another school. Good Lord I can't even imagine.


Won't happen.
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then shouldn't you be trying to not put all that info out onto the internet?


And again, you may be 100% right I have no way to disprove you, it just doesn't make sense. Whether he goes to UT or AU, we still have to play against him eveyr year. If we wanted him to go to, say ole miss or bama instead of UT that would make sense. But having to play him 3/4 times regardless of where he goes, just doesnt' make logical sense.


Nobody can do anything with what I'm putting on the internet. I've been contacted by the NCAA twice, neither time had anything to do with Alabama, but they wanted to know what I knew about School X. They know I don't and won't cooperate with them.

In regards to "rather him go to _____", (redacted) was only considering Auburn, Tennessee, and Clemson at that stage of his recruitment. Nobody viewed Clemson as a serious threat, even though he visited there. And as I stated, Georgia people were convinced he would end up being a much better player at Tennessee and that if he ended up at Auburn, he wouldn't live up to the hype or be fully developed. I'd say at this point in time, they were right. In two full games against UGA, Lawson has totaled 1 tackle. Meanwhile, Tennessee has had several top notch defensive linemen be developed by Steve Stripling.
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Not sure why he started off talking about UGA boosters.


It was a Georgia booster, "Jack", that called me to orchestrate it all.
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I don't know you so I have no clue if what you say is true or not.

What does sound odd is, why would UGA pay thousands (on multiple occasions) in a recruiting war that didn't involve us? Why would UGA boosters spend this money to intentionally steer a kid towards auburn?

If it was UF boosters for instance (a team that plays UT regularly but not auburn) that might make more sense, but as it is written it realy doesn't. If we were going to enter the bidding war, why not try to steer him towards us?


The several thousand dollars spent to steer Lawson away from Tennessee is essentially pennies to the people running the show at these programs. We're talking about people who have personal assistants making more money than the average person on this board, and their only job is basically a glorified money counter. The wild thing about it is that this happens all the time. We're all basically connected and know each other. You'd be shocked at how often things like this occur. Boosters from School A working out "deals" with boosters from school B just to keep the player away from School C. I've been involved in 3 more instances since Lawson's recruitment that have involved just that. Only one of them had anything to do with the University of Alabama.
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That's not technically proof. Unless you have a money order in his name or a check that he cashed or video evidence of him accepting payments....then all you have is proof that you have his number. It could have very well happened but it's still not proof.


I don't think anyone involved is dumb enough to allow those things to be so easily traced, unless you're from Oxford. I feel like the details provided in my story should be plenty of proof for any doubters. I'm not sure there's any way to provide more proof, and if there were, it would result in NCAA action that I'm not at all interested in.

Either way, I'm still curious as to whether or not my accounts of the recruitment of former players would be allowed, since they aren't under the umbrella of protection and potential sanctions from the NCAA. I do not want to put more time into threads that will get deleted or end up being kicked out from this site.
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This is similar to what happened with Gurley except there was video evidence. If you can't provide proof then it deserves to get whacked. I don't think people would have an issue with truth as long as it's verifiable and not just some guy on a message board saying things.


Well, I'd post (redacted) number and provide cell phone records, but I'm aware that posting someone's number on a public forum is bad form and would probably result in me not being welcome back here.
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If what you say is true, post it to reddit


I'm too old to do reddit I think. I just wanted to have some discussion with SEC fans. I've read these boards for many years. I was looking forward to being able to post my stories during a slow off-season.
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This seems more like first hand knowledge. Don't see why it was deleted.


100% first hand knowledge. I can give the admins (redacted) cell phone number if they don't believe the story. Also will be happy to provide Reese Dismuke's number to any admin who is concerned about "rumors." These are first hand accounts. I do understand the need to protect current players perhaps. That's why I'm curious if threads about former players will be allowed.

"A day in the life" thread deleted

Posted by Disassociated on 5/16/16 at 1:09 pm
I spent a good deal of time typing all of that up to share my account of the recruitment of
(redacted). I'm just curious why the thread was deleted. Was it because he is a current player? If so, do I have permission to post my accounts of the recruitment of former players such as Courtney Upshaw and Reese Dismukes?

Here is the screen cap of the post in question:

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