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Don't think we will see much happen with Iran for a while. Could be wrong but seems like both sides are content with waiting each other out to see who caves first.
Please tell me how anything I said is not accurate
I think it's still all speculative about how this will turn out so it's hard to say at this point who's right or wrong. Do I think something needed to be done about Iran? Yes. However do I think we underestimated their capabilities, what it would take for them to surrender, and how far we would need to go to get them to surrender? Also, yes. At this point it seems like it's a waiting game of who cries uncle first.
True, but we have heard since the beginning of this thing that the Iranian people are going to rise up and it hasn't happened yet. Honestly, I've lost trust in that happening anytime soon. Will it happen eventually? Possibly, but who knows when it will be.
I fully believe we should go back to hitting Iran and go all out with it. I think the issue with the economic situation is the supreme leader (if he is even still alive) has the final say on what is agreed to and what isn't. What determines how long they hold out is how long they are willing to allow their people to suffer. Unfortunately it seems there is no limit to that. They killed tens of thousands of them themselves it's not so far fetched to think that they will allow them to starve in the streets just to say they defeated and embarrassed the US
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Their National Oil Company just had their assets frozen. That's hurting the top.


These assets were frozen by a state owned bank. Seems like Iranian leadership has stepped in and ordered the unfreezing of those accounts. Of course that's based on information from google's AI so I guess it could potentially be false.
Hopefully this is the case. Not saying it isn't true but just wondering what sources have access to private talks between the president and supreme leader and how they had the ability to release that information?
True , another thing that might be keeping them from negotiating is their other avenues of export. Iran has increased exports out of the Caspian Sea by 181% over the last several months. Now, that offsets less than 10% of what was going out of the strait but could possibly be enough to allow their leaders to ride this out for quite some time. But like you said that part is speculation cause we most likely don't have all the information.

re: Operation “Economic Fury,”

Posted by LARancher1991 on 8/10/26 at 12:46 pm to
No doubt their economy is collapsing but is it effecting those at the top and in power? According to Forbes the accumulated wealth of the IRGC and Iran's leadership was between 100-200 billion before this started. Not enough to fund a country but enough to live comfortably while your economy is collapsing. That's the biggest issue here, the leaders themselves aren't feeling the strain of these actions. Those same leaders are willing to let the whole country go to hell and the people suffer as long as it means potentially defeating and embarrassing the US.
I think we will see a slow exit from this. None of the major news outlets are really reporting on it anymore. What will most likely happen is it will slowly stop being talked about and we will get out of it by just letting it fade away.
I don't think the operation was a mistake. Something needed to be done with Iran. Where I think the failure happened is us underestimating Iran's capabilities and what it would take to actually defeat them entirely or at least agree to the majority of our demands. Operation needed to happen but the execution was a failure.
We aren't even acting like we are serious about reaching a deal anymore :lol: :lol:. This is hopefully just Trump throwing a jab at the Iranians but who really knows anymore.
Iran is in the driver's seat now and they know it. Not because we don't have the capabilities to bomb them into oblivion or the ability to ruin their economy. It's because we attacked an enemy without understanding what it would truly take to defeat them. Iran knows we don't have the stomach to do the things it would take to bring them to their knees.
Because he was either given bad intelligence on Iran's military capabilities (missiles, drones, ect.) or vastly underestimated the resolve of the regime to endure suffering and not be willing to negotiate. This was never supposed to take this long. The thought from the beginning was that this would last a couple of weeks or a month tops and Iran would cave. That didn't happen and here we are.
But we aren't taking the W because of one simple fact and that is the Iranian regime doesn't care. We need to stop looking at this from a western point of view and realize what we are dealing with here. This regime is willing to let their economy collapse and their people suffer as much as needed in order to say they defeated and embarrassed the US. Sanctions and economic pressure work as long as you are dealing with a government or leadership that values the well being of their people. We are dealing with the complete opposite here.
All true, but unfortunately today's politicians as well as the American people don't have the stomach to do something like this. That's why this thing was almost destined for failure to begin with. We constantly make the mistake of looking at things from a western civilized point of view. Not our fault because we actually value human life. However, you are dealing with a regime that doesn't think that way. They are willing to pay whatever the cost and let their people suffer however much is needed just to say we defeated and embarrassed the US. You will never defeat an enemy like that by limiting the damage you inflict on them.
Unfortunately the ability to end this thing with us getting everything we wanted ended long ago. We clearly underestimated not only Iran's military capabilities when it comes to drones, missiles, etc., but also the resolve of the Iranian regime to take any type of punishment we throw at them. Iran is going to get something favorable out of this. The biggest thing now is to try and make sure it's something that is the least beneficial to them and the least damaging for us.
Guess we will see how much weight that mutual defense pact has.
Seems like stage 1 of meeting demands
I don't think any country in Europe will do anything. NK troops have been part of this war in the past mostly in defensing the kursk region but I don't think them actually moving into Ukraine would trigger any type of European response.

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If this didn't trigger a European response I don't think much will.
Idk why we have just been hitting Iran this whole time when it seems like we should be hitting Oman too. They have consistently allied with Iran in regards to the strait.