sawmillsam
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re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:31 pm
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Yep. See.. I believe in freedom. I'm guessing you're about 20 based on how much you believe others people's opinions should be able to limit freedom.
See, the point went clear over your head. Again. I also like the fact that you are putting words in my mouth. Nice touch.
They have every right in the world to protest. I'm not sure where you are getting "limiting freedom" from. It wasn't me :lol:
I'm simply saying these guys are childish douches for doing this, if they go through with it. And yeah, they are still doing it to be dicks. That's what has been said in this thread multiple times. Just like the Westboro Baptist church frickwads. Surely you do not side with the way those clowns conduct their protests either?
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re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:22 pm
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Yeah. And I routinely challenge their beliefs in front of them
Would you be perfectly fine with hundreds of atheist biker guys showing up, armed, outside your family members church--drawing satirical and cartoons making fun of Jesus and Christians?
Of course you wouldn't. You'd think the guys were being dicks just to be dicks. Not to protest anything.
re: Hancock County MS Deput Ambushed; K-9 to the Rescue
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:17 pm
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quote: This kind of attitude has been prevailing in Washington for the last six years and now it's coming home to roost and we're the targets."
What is this even supposed to mean?
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:15 pm
Any of your family members Christian?
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:09 pm
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They're not yelling. They're having a cartoon drawing contest.
Cool. Are you a Christian by chance?
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:07 pm
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Actually stats show a legally armed populace experiences less violence.
How about a group of angry protestors? Lets see the sample size
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Your argument is specious at best.
Maybe you'll eventually come around and see that these guys aren't showing up at the mosque to make a point peacefully.(and what point would they be trying to make to muslims?) They are there to start shite and be dicks. Come on, cap
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:04 pm
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Yes it is a position of fear. You're telling them to not exercise their freedom in a legal manner because you're afraid of the response.
I love this. Put yourself in their shoes if you can.
If there was an angry bunch of armed protestors outside your church during service yelling at you for a couple of evil wackjobs that used to go there, it would be just as messed up and you'd be taking the other side. And don't even start with trying to justify it with "well we don't bomb people" etc etc.
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 3:00 pm
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But the speech they will exercise IS justified in our society.
Up until the point of becoming violent, yes. Which by all indications is what this event will be since the leader asked the attendees to bring guns..
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They aren't trying to start a fight. They're exercising their freedom
Read above. Then consider what has been said before but has to be repeated again and again: Supposedly up to 600 protestors, many of them from biker gangs, will be doing their thing outside a mosque when muslims will be going to their prayers. Want to quit playing naïve now? Of course they are trying to start a fight. It isn't rocket surgery my friend.
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 2:49 pm
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They're not being ridiculed.
The event hasn't happened yet. Not sure how many times this has been said. Unless police disperse it, I can't imagine it will end well for either the people of the mosque or the protestors
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Cartoonists are going to draw satirical images of a long dead religious figure.
Ok. So? I didn't say the terrorists were justified. They aren't and never will be. That goes for any religion.
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Do you think cartoon images of jesus ridicule Christians?
Quite obviously. Your point?
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 2:47 pm
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Actually, accepting of all speech, even offensive speech is seen as a sign of a vastly more civilized society...
Quite obviously. That doesn't mean that all forms of free speech are justified. These people are obviously trying to start a fight and the sympathizers to a-holes who wait outside the doors of a mosque to verbally torment muslims are a pathetic bunch who think brawn trumps using your brain.
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 2:43 pm
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Anyone who would kill you for your speech hates your freedom. Think about it..
And those people should be singled out and dealt with accordingly..
The people at this mosque had nothing to do with the terrorists that they are associated with. Nothing. Yet they will be ridiculed because stupid bikers associate anyone who worship at a mosque to be a terrorist who is trying to burn America to the ground.
Think about that.
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 2:39 pm
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deliberately disrespectful to a person or a group. That's what this is, nothing more, nothing less.
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But these bikers are deliberately trying to be disrespectful to a religion.
Exactly
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re: Igloo Party Bar Cooler...
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:36 pm
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Does it come with a sticker?
I hope so! My 2'x2' costa del mar one ive got on my muddy truck is wearing out!
re: Australians of the OT
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:35 pm
Say "cock rash"
You just said car crash in down undah
You just said car crash in down undah
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:34 pm
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How else are those patriots going to have an excuse to shoot them?
Maybe they'll just adopt terd ferguson's outlook and shoot them because they look different/have a different belief. Such fine patriots.
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:29 pm
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You should tell him that he doesn't get it.
You should continue with hoping that a muslim brings a gun to the event :rolleyes:
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:28 pm
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Because you have to draw the line somewhere
So this is "drawing the line"? No. It's a bunch of blowhards acting like idiots and trying to entice a fight or worse.
re: If you could wipe the slate clean and start over, what would you do?
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:27 pm
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I have a degree in computer networking/programmimg
How do you like this? Personally I could stay on a computer all day and ive meddled with coding and really like it as well as researching computer applications/infrastructure but wanted to hear from a seasoned professional.
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, but would rather be in teaching/coaching.
What I hope to do in my 60's/retirement. I'm a couple of credits from a Biology degree and love it anyway so I think it might be a good fit
re: Mohammad Cartoon Contest to be held outside Phoenix mosque; guns encouraged
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:25 pm
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How else will people who are fed up with the idea of killing people because they draw something going to state their frustration.
Maybe march downtown? Maybe not humiliate Muslim people at their place of worship for something they didn't/don't condone?
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Are the guys going today killing in protest? Didn't think so
Who knows if it will be violent. The guy in the facebook post telling these fricks to "bring their guns" certainly thinks so.
The guy in charge a little ove the top? maybe
You think?
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When all said and done, tomorrow wil be just another day. Most of the world will have no clue about this protest. Not far from now another innocent person will be murdered for drawing Mohammad. And America will say that this person knew better.
Hey, whatever fits your narrative is what you're going to believe anyway so there's no use in trying to convince you otherwise.
re: If you could wipe the slate clean and start over, what would you do?
Posted by sawmillsam on 5/29/15 at 1:14 pm
Youre right. Time to call AARP. Anyone know the number to Life Alert my ego has fallen and it cant get up
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