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Because it’s not mysterious (almost magical) like tech and can’t be propped up for years on end with promises of outlandish future growth.

Industry also requires a lot more capital to build the infrastructure than tech (pre-AI) and other IP dependent businesses. It’s just not possible to get those outsized earnings multiples when you’ve got so much overhead.
Lots of smoke that a major dollar devaluation is inevitable to deal with the debt situation. If so debt holders will get crushed and may be trying to get out of it.
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Milei saving Argentina using free market libertarian ideas is our only chance to have a friend on the continent and could be an example for surrounding countries if successful.


Bingo. Milei is on the right track. It’s just going to take time for the economy to get through the withdrawal pains. I get why people don’t want us to send money abroad anywhere, though.

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I wonder who will bail us out when we can no longer service our debt?


We can always service our current debt. It’s denominated in our dollars which we are free to print, after all. What we can’t guarantee is the willingness of other countries to continue to make loans to us in our dollars in the first place.
I would short it to hell out the gate, personally. I’ve heard some horror stories about their non performing loans.
Companies can crash, but not the industry. I think at least a few of the AAA studios will essentially crash, but if you’re not paying close attention you’ll miss it. They’ll sell a large (majority) stake in the company off to maintain liquidity and the new owners will keep the name and IP rolling along for continuity.
Some of us actually do have discipline while enjoying the occasional cheap thrill.

Abstinence is the path of the weak.
Football season is right around the corner and with it degenerate gambling. What are the best bets you’ve ever hit (by legs, size of winnings, or long odds)?

re: PH Soil Tester

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As with all things it depends, lol.

If you’re in Louisiana and not on the Red River or any of its distributaries it’s almost a guarantee your ph is low and in need of lime.
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Check out this new interstate corridor from Texas to Georgia. I know that land along Hwy 84 is relatively cheap. Brookhaven is located at the intersection of I55 and the future I14 crossroads and they are already investing in infrastructure improvements. If you are looking for some land to buy for investment, this could be a good play.


I understand wanting to get ahead of the crowd but that corridor may legitimately not come in our lifetimes. If you buy anything along there you should probably make sure it has other uses/value potential in the meantime.
Not at all. It’s a bit more involved for us to do it since we’re the world’s reserve currency, but this is the most likely path. It also helps with paying off national debt since that debt is denominated in our dollars. Not necessarily the most……popular move on the world stage, but everyone’s out for themselves so we might as well be, too.
It definitely helps make all exports more competitive and importing look less appetizing than buying local. There’s plenty of precedent. Reagan and the Plaza Accords in the ‘80’s are the direct parallel. I suspect he’s driving towards something similar.
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any time a bank did get over its skis simply fold them up, make depositors whole, and zero out the bad loans and equity holders.


I’m not a monster. I’m not saying the innocent bystanders that are depositors and savers should be punished. But if you’re elderly and still playing in the serious investing markets like the rest of us (rather than converting to T-Bills, cash, dividend payers, or paid-off rent producing property) then I’ve got no pity for you. You knew the risks.
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Congress wanted the Fed to reduce the severity/depth of financial panics by becoming the "lender of last resort" to provide liquidity for the financial markets when they froze up.


I’ve never liked this train of thought much. Creating a national-level “extend and pretend” truly does privatize the gains and socialize the losses. It also obviously has encouraged and enabled moral hazard.

If the banks were kept at a smaller, state-border size and Glass-Steagall had teeth we could have kept contagion to a minimum and any time a bank did get over its skis simply fold them up, make depositors whole, and zero out the bad loans and equity holders.

It’s these bad-debt overhangs on the system that cause economies to languish for years or even decades (looking at you, Japan). What we should do is allow a sharp, hard break to wipe out all the bad actors who made foolish investments/loans so that the market can move on.
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Hamilton was born an impoverished bastard son in the Caribbean. Immigrated to the US and proceeded to fight in the Revolutionary War


I’m well aware of his life’s story. The circumstances of a man’s birth is not the sole determinant of his political leanings later in life, though.

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got the Constitution ratified in New York


And yet didn’t care too much about the sanctity of the document as his argument for the establishment of a central bank essentially rested on “well the Constitution doesn’t say you don’t have the power to create one”. Tenuous at best.

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He died in a duel and left his family pretty heavily in debt. Not particularly aristocratic in my opinion..


Dueling was extremely common amongst high society in those days. Living above one’s means in an aspirational way has never been out of style.

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I think he saw the world influence and power that Great Britain wielded through their banking/commerce and simply wanted to replicate that for America.


I agree. Do you not think of the Britain of that time as extremely aristocratic with a large, dispossessed underclass?
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The greatest 150 years of wealth creation in the history of the world is described as "impoverishing"?


Was that wealth creation due to central banking? To government spending? Or was it due to one of the greatest stretches of innovation in the history of mankind? Why must we accept inflation as a given? All of these tech breakthroughs are inherently deflationary. The prices of things should go down over time, not up. Let me ask you another question. When you see a chart like this:



Do you think this reads like a people that are getting richer over time? How about these:




Who do you think enabled and enforced these moves? Do you think they’ve helped the average man? I don’t.
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Not only that, I don't really think there was a consolidated national currency until the late 1800s or so. States had their own currencies and all. It was a mess.


The real consolidation happened during the Civil War, but prior to that the major issuers were individual banks.

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Also, for all the gold/silver fetishists, I'm not sure you would have the stomach for the various "panics" that happened fairly often back in those days.


Then as now most of the panics were caused due to government distortions. You should read Murray Rothbard’s “A History of Money and Banking in the United States”. He lays it all out beautifully.

After reading his book I firmly believe that the consolidation of money and banking power in the U.S. has been one of the greatest forces in impoverishing and enserfing our people. The power is too much for one group to hold. Banking branches need to be restricted back to within state boundaries and the Federal Reserve needs to be abolished.

TLDR: Jefferson and Jackson were right to oppose and strike down the central bank. Hamilton was an elitist who wanted nothing more than a new American aristocracy based around banking and (to a lesser extent) big industry.
“Starkville is an old Indian word for trailer park.” “A tornado once went through and did a million dollars worth of improvements.”

-Skip Bertman

Not an LSU guy, but Spurrier had some absolute gems. When the library burned at Auburn he said “the real tragedy was that several of those books still hadn’t been colored, yet.”
They haven’t moved at all. I’m asking you how often you expect people to accomplish these major life accomplishments, what most people would term “getting ahead”, without the use of these common forms of leverage.

I know the Money Talk is full of outliers, but I don’t believe even they have won at such a clip as 80% never needing or using these tools.
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If that's the case, I'd guess 80% of the posters on this board have done the impossible.


You think 80% have never had a mortgage, student loans, or business loans? That everyone’s paying cash up front? Come on, now.