BThorn86
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| Occupation: | Contributor at CBSSports.com & NFL Draft Lead writer for TheFootballEducator |
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| Registered on: | 1/30/2015 |
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re: TFE Big Board - Top Graded Prospects
Posted by BThorn86 on 3/15/15 at 2:55 pm to Bench McElroy
Their offense wasn't good and it put their defense in a lot of bad spots. Even still, I'm with you. They should've been better than they were
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re: TFE Big Board - Top Graded Prospects
Posted by BThorn86 on 3/15/15 at 2:30 pm to NeathOrangeandBlue
I threw in 17 to add an SEC guy. Wanted to really share the list for the scouting reports attached to each SEC guy.
TFE Big Board - Top Graded Prospects
Posted by BThorn86 on 3/15/15 at 1:46 pm
The Football Educator's Brandon Thorn bring you his top grades prospects so far. Included in this Top 17 are 5 SEC stars.
Full Board - LINK
2015 NFL Draft Big Board – Graded Players
1. Edge – Vic Beasley – Clemson – 6-3/246 – Grade: 7.7 Elite get off, refined pass rusher with an arsenal of moves and supreme athleticism. Advanced application of leverage/bend and much better versus the run than given credit for.
2. DL – Leonard Williams – USC - 6-5/300 – Grade: 7.6 Stout at POA, NFL-ready from day 1 in terms of strength/athleticism. Think Richard Seymour.
3. Edge – Randy Gregory – Nebraska – 6-6/245 – Grade: 7.4 Extremely athletic, explosive, and long. Uses all three very efficiently and only a 2-year D1 player. Tons of room to grow technique and body wise.
17. ILB Benardrick McKinney – Mississippi State – 6-5/249 – Grade: 6.6 Very fluid in his movements with long arms and a strong upper body. Has sideline to sideline range but has poor footwork on contact. Needs to refine his technique as he has a tendency to lounge at blockers and over pursue ballcarriers.
Full Board - LINK
2015 NFL Draft Big Board – Graded Players
1. Edge – Vic Beasley – Clemson – 6-3/246 – Grade: 7.7 Elite get off, refined pass rusher with an arsenal of moves and supreme athleticism. Advanced application of leverage/bend and much better versus the run than given credit for.
2. DL – Leonard Williams – USC - 6-5/300 – Grade: 7.6 Stout at POA, NFL-ready from day 1 in terms of strength/athleticism. Think Richard Seymour.
3. Edge – Randy Gregory – Nebraska – 6-6/245 – Grade: 7.4 Extremely athletic, explosive, and long. Uses all three very efficiently and only a 2-year D1 player. Tons of room to grow technique and body wise.
17. ILB Benardrick McKinney – Mississippi State – 6-5/249 – Grade: 6.6 Very fluid in his movements with long arms and a strong upper body. Has sideline to sideline range but has poor footwork on contact. Needs to refine his technique as he has a tendency to lounge at blockers and over pursue ballcarriers.
re: TFE Scouting Report - Shane Ray
Posted by BThorn86 on 2/4/15 at 6:44 pm to semotruman
Thanks bro. The info on Golden is dually noted, too. Didn't know all of that background.
Sure..lol but you are keeping in mind the last time I updated my mock was Jan 1st, right? I just revamped my Big Board though..the mock will get updated within a week.
MUCH appreciated guys, thank you. I try and be as thorough as I possibly can with my evals. I know Ray has some things he needs to work on like getting his lower body developed more in terms of strength and converting his insane speed to power more effectively, but his motor paired with his insane explosion is what really sold me. Like you guys said and I wrote in my report, he plays mad and I think it can help cover some of his weaknesses initially.
I'd post more reports, but for now he's the only Mizzou guy I've wrote up.
Hit me up sometime on Twitter for a lot more @VeteranScout
I'd post more reports, but for now he's the only Mizzou guy I've wrote up.
Hit me up sometime on Twitter for a lot more @VeteranScout
Thanks for the feedback guys, its much appreciated. I think Golden is better vs the run than Ray due to being stronger at the POA and he also plays with a high motor. He isn't close to the athlete Ray is, but he's a solid day 2 prospect IMO. I haven't studied Golden but saw him all week at the Senior Bowl. Looks like a very good backup with the ability to start here and there effectively in the NFL.
TFE Scouting Report - Shane Ray
Posted by BThorn86 on 2/2/15 at 3:38 pm
TFE's NFL Draft Lead writer Brandon Thorn breaks down his #2 rated Edge player for the 2015 NFL Draft with an in-depth, NFL style scouting report. Feedback is very much appreciated!
Full Report: LINK
Summary:
Ray is an RS Jr, a three year contributor and just a one year starter due to the high level of talent at Missouri. Ray had to wait his turn behind the 2013 SEC Defensive Player of the Year Michael Sam. Ray made the most of his opportunity in ’14 and not only won the SEC Defensive Player of the Year but was a consensus first-team All-American and broke the single season school-record for sacks and tackles for loss. Ray finished his career with 120 total tackles, 82 solo, 34 TFL, 17.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery (73-yard TD) and a blocked kick. He finished his record-breaking ’14 season with 65 TT, 47 solo, 22.5 TFL, 13 sacks, 3 FF, 1 blocked kick.
Ray is a well-built, muscular, balanced human with a slightly more developed upper half than lower. He has the frame to be able to add the necessary weight to be an every down player in the future (10-12 pounds). He has tremendous control over his body paired with elite athleticism, allowing him to start/stop on a dime and change directions with ease. He is smooth and crisp in his movements, specifically up field and laterally. Against the pass he sets up OL outside and comes back inside with a devastating rip move thats nearly unstoppable due to his insane burst/suddenness. Incredibly active/quick foot fire that really factor in when he’s kicked inside as a three technique on passing downs. Doesn’t possess many moves aside from the rip and needs work on his bull rush which is very ineffective. He doesn’t hold up well at the POA due to lack of sand, standing straight up, or by not keeping his shoulders square. His hands are very fast but not nearly as powerful. Needs to continue to work hard in the weight room, gain weight/strength, particularly in his lower half, and play with better leverage vs the run. His excellent speed enable him to track down ballcarriers and outrun angles. What makes him so dynamic is his tremendous motor. He plays with his hair on fire and is extremely aggressive in all his actions on the field (out of his stance, on contact, running down people) and isn’t afraid to risk his body. His high level of intensity can work against him at times as he will get such a full head of steam he loses his balance and his feet get tangled, specifically when running the loop. He needs to learn how to stay under control more consistently. He pursues backside consistently and very well with his speed/effort combo. Snaps his hips on contact and has the ability to deliver the big hit. In coverage he can snap his hips, turn, and explode seamlessly but lacks much experience in this aspect from the tapes I’ve seen. Ray is the prototypical 3-4 OLB and would excel most in that spot on the next level. He will be one of the more explosive and athletic pass rushers as soon as he steps on the field in the NFL. Ray needs time in the weight room to develop sand and overall functional strength plus develop a couple counter moves before he is an every down player. Initially, Ray will be able to generate pressure/penetration from multiple spots (off the edge and as a three technique in nickel/dime situations) and with time should develop into a perennial pro bowler and difference maker.
Pro Comp – Shawne Merriman
Full Report: LINK
Summary:
Ray is an RS Jr, a three year contributor and just a one year starter due to the high level of talent at Missouri. Ray had to wait his turn behind the 2013 SEC Defensive Player of the Year Michael Sam. Ray made the most of his opportunity in ’14 and not only won the SEC Defensive Player of the Year but was a consensus first-team All-American and broke the single season school-record for sacks and tackles for loss. Ray finished his career with 120 total tackles, 82 solo, 34 TFL, 17.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery (73-yard TD) and a blocked kick. He finished his record-breaking ’14 season with 65 TT, 47 solo, 22.5 TFL, 13 sacks, 3 FF, 1 blocked kick.
Ray is a well-built, muscular, balanced human with a slightly more developed upper half than lower. He has the frame to be able to add the necessary weight to be an every down player in the future (10-12 pounds). He has tremendous control over his body paired with elite athleticism, allowing him to start/stop on a dime and change directions with ease. He is smooth and crisp in his movements, specifically up field and laterally. Against the pass he sets up OL outside and comes back inside with a devastating rip move thats nearly unstoppable due to his insane burst/suddenness. Incredibly active/quick foot fire that really factor in when he’s kicked inside as a three technique on passing downs. Doesn’t possess many moves aside from the rip and needs work on his bull rush which is very ineffective. He doesn’t hold up well at the POA due to lack of sand, standing straight up, or by not keeping his shoulders square. His hands are very fast but not nearly as powerful. Needs to continue to work hard in the weight room, gain weight/strength, particularly in his lower half, and play with better leverage vs the run. His excellent speed enable him to track down ballcarriers and outrun angles. What makes him so dynamic is his tremendous motor. He plays with his hair on fire and is extremely aggressive in all his actions on the field (out of his stance, on contact, running down people) and isn’t afraid to risk his body. His high level of intensity can work against him at times as he will get such a full head of steam he loses his balance and his feet get tangled, specifically when running the loop. He needs to learn how to stay under control more consistently. He pursues backside consistently and very well with his speed/effort combo. Snaps his hips on contact and has the ability to deliver the big hit. In coverage he can snap his hips, turn, and explode seamlessly but lacks much experience in this aspect from the tapes I’ve seen. Ray is the prototypical 3-4 OLB and would excel most in that spot on the next level. He will be one of the more explosive and athletic pass rushers as soon as he steps on the field in the NFL. Ray needs time in the weight room to develop sand and overall functional strength plus develop a couple counter moves before he is an every down player. Initially, Ray will be able to generate pressure/penetration from multiple spots (off the edge and as a three technique in nickel/dime situations) and with time should develop into a perennial pro bowler and difference maker.
Pro Comp – Shawne Merriman
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