
Jay Are
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re: "The Odyssey" Discussion Thread: News, Reviews, Box Office, etc. $264 mil WW opening
Posted by Jay Are on 7/20/26 at 11:28 pm to imjustafatkid
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Is that guy predicting $400-$500M total? Surely not. That would be a disaster.
North American Domestic. $500 million would be the top grossing domestic film of the year so far. It would be the first film in 2 years to hit that mark. And it would sit with Barbie, Mario, and TG Maverick as the only non-franchise (mcu/pixar sequel) films to hit that in the 2020s.
(Toy Story 5 could hit 500 as well if disney pushes it long enough. It's not guaranteed at this point.)
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Yes, if you make a caricature of your opponent it's easy to paint them as odd and unhealthy.
You're painting in the broadest strokes, about straw men.
Got out of the movie a few hours ago. Loved a few decisions and scenes; liked some others much less. Loved the Calypso framing device, cyclops, Circe scene, and sacking of Troy. Thought Scylla looked dumb. Thought the first 20 minutes were the slowest. Thought the final trial and fight were the worst looking moments in the movie. I enjoyed every major performance, except for Holland. I remain convinced that Corey Hawkins holds the most powerful blackmail materials in history.
Outside of Holland, the Telemachus stuff really suffers in comparison to The Return, which came out less than 2 years ago. That film stages the trial better, and Ralph Fiennes gives a powerhouse performance as Ulysses in it. It also handles Argus better. If this has already come up in this thread, cool and sorry. This is my first time entering.
Was pleased that this does not have the drowned-out dialogue issue. If anything the dialogue in the first act was too pronounced in the mix. Noticed this most during the Penelope/Telemachus palace rooftop convo.
After one viewing, I place this above Inception and Interstellar, what feel like the most obvious comparison points in the Nolan filmography, but it should be noted that I think inception is only dumb fun, and I think interstellar is actively bad.
re: "The Odyssey" Discussion Thread: News, Reviews, Box Office, etc. $264 mil WW opening
Posted by Jay Are on 7/20/26 at 7:05 pm to imjustafatkid
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It needs to hit something like $650-750 to break even, and always h
It will likely have earned between $450-500 million after 10 days. Feels like any concern trolling over profitability can take a break, at least until Spider-Man comes out.
re: Dune 3 and Doomsday both release on December 18th
Posted by Jay Are on 7/20/26 at 1:10 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
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Question is which one breaks first?
Dune has the imax screens. They'd have to move far out into 2027 to get that window again. Dune isn't moving.
Caligula and 300 unironically landing on any Best Of list is bad news. Troy is garbage. I like Richard Lester, but Forum is one of his least funny movies.
Anthony Mann's The Fall of the Roman Empire would be in my top 5. Same with his El Cid, which I think qualifies based on what else is included in this list. Richard Fleischer's Barabbas is better than most of the list.
If Julius Caesar counts, so should CBD's 1934 Cleopatra, which is fantastic and Claudette Colbert holy shite.
I would imagine this board loves Immortals, given the presence of its man crush, and it probably is a better inclusion than several of these.
Also, isn't omitting Clash of the Titans pretty strange?
Anthony Mann's The Fall of the Roman Empire would be in my top 5. Same with his El Cid, which I think qualifies based on what else is included in this list. Richard Fleischer's Barabbas is better than most of the list.
If Julius Caesar counts, so should CBD's 1934 Cleopatra, which is fantastic and Claudette Colbert holy shite.
I would imagine this board loves Immortals, given the presence of its man crush, and it probably is a better inclusion than several of these.
Also, isn't omitting Clash of the Titans pretty strange?
re: How much $ will zendaya make in 6 months?
Posted by Jay Are on 7/19/26 at 7:58 pm to Deadmanshand
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She has the range of a 2004 Hummer.
Dune Part II
Challengers
The Drama
Can anyone explain how these three films show a limited range? Bonus points if you can still do it working in Malcolm & Marie.
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One of the most boring books I have ever read which was turned into an equally boring video media circle jerk of their own "importance".
You can think Rocky is better than All the President's Men without saying nonsense to justify your opinion.
Whose importance? Are you under the impression that the book was written by video media journalists and then adapted and filmed by video media journalists? Do you think only video media journalists got it to the 6th highest box office gross of 1976?
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Why did Supergirl have it and The Devil Wears Prada 2 didn't
There aren't millions of clicks in yelling about a comedy legacy sequel set in a female-dominated space (fashion magazines). There is endless rage to be generated by yelling stupid shite about a superhero film.
This board is also much more privy to social media "controversies" in the genre filmmaking. It's probably ignorant (as a collective, all of us) to assume there aren't content creators nitpicking and complaining about TDWP2. It's a huge sequel to a huge movie that has developed a massive fanbase over the past 20 years. There will be protective fans with strong opinions, both positive and negative.
If someone started a thread here about how they're casting gay actors in a movie about the fashion industry, it isn't going to get the same amount of attention as something about The Odyssey. People here can pretend to know what period-accurate armor looks like, and they can pretend to have read the source and pretend to know history, but they can't pretend as convincingly to know better than the filmmakers of The Devil Wears Prada. So such controversy would die on the vine here, and it likely doesn't reach your X and Youtube algorithms, which many of you have trained to feed you negative stupidity all day.
Tl:dr - posturing and virtue signaling for a louder group of social media users.
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No, I just don’t factor in irrelevant qualifiers because they’re irrelevant.
You can just voice-to-text "I ignore things I don't understand."
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No, I just don’t factor in irrelevant qualifiers because they’re irrelevant.
It's okay to use your speech-to-text function to just say, "I ignore things I don't understand."
re: What is your album of the year so far?
Posted by Jay Are on 7/18/26 at 7:25 pm to rebelrouser
Converge - Love Is Not Enough
re: Is Ella Langley going to put country music back on the map?
Posted by Jay Are on 7/18/26 at 7:16 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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So Ella Langley is “real” country music?
Please.
They think she's attractive, and she hasn't done or said anything that politically annoys them yet.
It's just radio country, complete with the same rural pandering lyrics about farms, trucks, and Texas that you can find anywhere
re: So words just get eliminated from the English language now?
Posted by Jay Are on 7/18/26 at 7:07 pm to shutterspeed
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Are countries/nationalities typically allowed in Scrabble-type games tho?
Depends on the specific game, but, often, no. A demonyn is a proper adjective built off a proper noun. Proper nouns are not allowed in scrabble. An Indian brand motorcycle makes the case for why it should not be allowed under that rule.
Just a typical moment of ignorance voiced angrily in public, enhancing the public's understanding of the speaker's stupidity.
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Jurassic World dominion made over 1 billion just 4 years ago. Is it ever talked about? Are the Avatar sequels? Didn't one of those come out less than a year ago?
None of those set a recent record for r-rated live-action openings. None of those opened higher than their respective directors' other, larger franchises. None of those were the highest grossing weekends of a big name director despite being rated R. It's almost like making billion dollars wasn't part of the point I made.
I didn't make a claim about the odyssey making a billion. Making a billion does not guarantee a long cultural memory (though the Avatar mention is really stupid -- "No one cares about these, and also they keep being the highest grossing films of all time whenever they are released" Plenty care, even if I do not). I made a claim about The Odyssey being cited as a comparison point for its huge opening weekend in the near future. Unless something unprecedented happens tomorrow, its opening is going to be a frequently cited data point.
You must voice type all of your posts. You can't seem to read the things you're responding to.
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News flash, nobody will be talking about the Odyssey a year from now either.
Maybe. Impossible to know.
I do know that, if it's current box office projection holds, it's going to be mentioned anytime a new historical, war, R-rated live action, or R-rated action film is released in the next few years, because it will be the box-office high bar comparison point for opening weekends. It will be used a comparison point for combined high audience and high critics scores.
It will have to seriously tank Sunday for the box office stuff to not come true, and it would be unprecedented for a non-horror film that is being praised by virtually everyone to die on the vine so quickly.
None of this means the movie is better than you say it is, but the idea of it just dying in the collective conscience within a year seems increasingly unlikely.
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They don't let you do it exclusively through production hires anymore.
Correct. You can meet it through on screen talent or content, production/creative crew, producer/marketing/distributor personnel, or literally just paying your interns.
2/4 of these gets you qualified. No previous Best Picture winner would have failed to meet these very easy requirements. Stop spreading bullshite.
You can very fukking easily read the Academy rules on the Academy website
re: How Gorge Is This Magnifique Opus Offering By Sleep Token
Posted by Jay Are on 7/18/26 at 1:58 pm to shutterspeed
I'm happy the Sleep Token people are happy.
I'm just not sure they should be slinging this kind of language.
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Not even doo doo babymetal.
I'm just not sure they should be slinging this kind of language.
re: "The Odyssey" Discussion Thread: News, Reviews, Box Office, etc. $264 mil WW opening
Posted by Jay Are on 7/18/26 at 1:49 pm to RohanGonzales
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You can look it up.
You could. As you, very obviously, have not.
re: Progressive Movie Director vs Racist Movie Director
Posted by Jay Are on 7/18/26 at 11:19 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
No one thinks Apocalypto is racist. People know Gibson is racist because he has been recorded making seriously racist comments.
He's still directing. He was nominated for best director after the racist recordings.
Don't be such a shite
He's still directing. He was nominated for best director after the racist recordings.
Don't be such a shite
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It’s funny you think this is a good argument
The guy he responded to was pretty funny suggesting he didn't care about race, just realism, then ignoring the issues with other races, ignoring other unrealistic elements, and doubling down on complaining about only black actors.
A dumb joke in response to a really stupid point seems fine.
re: "The Odyssey" Discussion Thread: News, Reviews, Box Office, etc. $264 mil WW opening
Posted by Jay Are on 7/18/26 at 5:25 am to imjustafatkid
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Sinon is fulfilling the exact same purpose Achilles did in the book.
Again, is Sinon discussing the importance of the death and legacy of Achilles with Odysseus?
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