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re: UGA Basketball Season Long Thread (19-15, 10-10) // Season Complete
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:32 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:32 pm to djsdawg
Really high on Hammonds. Not sure how much he contributes right away but has major potential in his time in Athens. Claxton the legacy stretch 4 is quite a ways from being ready to play IMO. Likely redshirt. Hightower is intriguing. Not highly recruited originally, partially because people expected him to not quality academically. After a good prep school showing, growing a few inches and getting his academics squared away he is a solid prospect.
I really worry about shooting and ball handling next year too. Think we could be pretty good defensively, should be good in the post and a great rebounding team. But can we shoot it well enough? Can we handle press and pressure, cut down on our turnovers?
And just me but I don't like the thought that other, better programs will fire their coaches this year so we wouldn't be able to hire a good one. Don't think you can worry about other programs. Also feel there is a fairly long list of potential quality candidates out there. Just my 2 cents.
I really worry about shooting and ball handling next year too. Think we could be pretty good defensively, should be good in the post and a great rebounding team. But can we shoot it well enough? Can we handle press and pressure, cut down on our turnovers?
And just me but I don't like the thought that other, better programs will fire their coaches this year so we wouldn't be able to hire a good one. Don't think you can worry about other programs. Also feel there is a fairly long list of potential quality candidates out there. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:35 pm to SumterCoDawg
Rayshaun was 32nd by one service and 37th on another.
KCP was at 12 according to 247. Not such a huge difference and if Rayshaun is even close to that billing he will help immediately.
Djsdawgs, if we are going by rankings prior to ever playing a college minute make a player have any future value then Yante Maten sucks, JJ Frazier wouldn't start for anybody else in the league, Kenny Gaines, and Charles Mann are horrible.
TeShaun Hightower will add value bare minimum defensively due to his height and length. As will Nic Claxton who supposedly is 6'10-6'11. If Nic can hit the jump shot as they say he would add value. Either way they both add value. Nic gives us a 4th man for a front court rotation and if he can hit a jump shot that's even more added value.
KCP was at 12 according to 247. Not such a huge difference and if Rayshaun is even close to that billing he will help immediately.
Djsdawgs, if we are going by rankings prior to ever playing a college minute make a player have any future value then Yante Maten sucks, JJ Frazier wouldn't start for anybody else in the league, Kenny Gaines, and Charles Mann are horrible.
TeShaun Hightower will add value bare minimum defensively due to his height and length. As will Nic Claxton who supposedly is 6'10-6'11. If Nic can hit the jump shot as they say he would add value. Either way they both add value. Nic gives us a 4th man for a front court rotation and if he can hit a jump shot that's even more added value.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:39 pm to TigerinUGA
Length is key with this group. You have a 6'5 PG with a 6'7 SF and a 6'10 post player. That has to help your team defensively and one of them is supposed to be a stud scorer. Mean while the other two have quality skills to be role players and could develop into more.
I agree Claxton won't play a lot but he is still better than Houston kessler in the event we are in foul trouble he can probably step in with more valuable minutes. Scouts seem to think Claxton has MAJOR upside. I don't quiet see that upside but if he adds value and production then it's a good signing.
I agree Claxton won't play a lot but he is still better than Houston kessler in the event we are in foul trouble he can probably step in with more valuable minutes. Scouts seem to think Claxton has MAJOR upside. I don't quiet see that upside but if he adds value and production then it's a good signing.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:40 pm to DoubleDawg22
247 has his composite at 43, that is a long way away from the 10-12 range which is usually guys who are lottery picks after a year or two. Rayshaun will be good but pump the brakes on him being a taller version of a recent #8 overall pick.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:41 pm to djsdawg
You underestimate how much potential this class has. None of them are any damn good but hell, neither are our football recruits until they actually step on the field or court and produce something.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:44 pm to SumterCoDawg
Forgive me, ESPN has him at 38. By far the most highly ranked guy we've recruited since KCP and nobody is even close.
They are premature rankings...our team is also better than when KCP was on campus. Hammonds could end up producing more than KCP..could also produce less than KCP. Who the hell knows.
Tell me where I said he was a taller version. I said he would help the team. Sumter...don't they teach reading comprehension in your school systems?
They are premature rankings...our team is also better than when KCP was on campus. Hammonds could end up producing more than KCP..could also produce less than KCP. Who the hell knows.
Tell me where I said he was a taller version. I said he would help the team. Sumter...don't they teach reading comprehension in your school systems?
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:48 pm to DoubleDawg22
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He is rated just behind KCP but bigger.
quote:Coming from the guy who has used the phrase "your a dumbass" at least 6 times now by my count
Tell me where I said he was a taller version. I said he would help the team. Sumter...don't they teach reading comprehension in your school systems?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:06 pm to DoubleDawg22
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You underestimate how much potential this class has
Based on what? Once again, its in the bottom half of the SEC like most Fox classes. What sets it apart?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:01 am to SumterCoDawg
Grammar police on a message board. I'm sorry your probably one too. You think I did it intentionally this time just to give you something to gripe about.
You really need to find something to do if you are down to spending the days of your life counting how many times someone misuses you're.
You really need to find something to do if you are down to spending the days of your life counting how many times someone misuses you're.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:02 am to djsdawg
I've already told you what does... length. You must have gone to Sumter county schools too.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:56 am to DoubleDawg22
I wasn't reading your discussion with others when I made that post, but I will say a recruiting classes length is a crappy reason to want to keep Fox around. Thankfully we will likely move on thanks to this underachieving season and middling recruiting class.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 7:39 am to djsdawg
That's not why I want to keep fox around. I don't understand why think that.
You claim this recruit class sucks and I responded that it doesn't suck because these guys coming will add value to or team and are replacing people that add zero or little value. Part of that value is length. The is the most obvious way they will help. Look at Charles Mann as a perfect example, JJ is probably a better player than Charles Mann but due to have 6 inches in height and length on JJ, Charles is able to increase his value especially on the defensive end.
This really isn't hard to understand. One of the major reasons Kentucky should have blown us out of the water even without Dearon fox is because they are taller and longer than we are. Not to mention their depth.
You claim this recruit class sucks and I responded that it doesn't suck because these guys coming will add value to or team and are replacing people that add zero or little value. Part of that value is length. The is the most obvious way they will help. Look at Charles Mann as a perfect example, JJ is probably a better player than Charles Mann but due to have 6 inches in height and length on JJ, Charles is able to increase his value especially on the defensive end.
This really isn't hard to understand. One of the major reasons Kentucky should have blown us out of the water even without Dearon fox is because they are taller and longer than we are. Not to mention their depth.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 7:41 am
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:35 am to DoubleDawg22
Said it sucked? I clearly said it was middling, which is fair for a class in the bottom half of the sec.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:57 am to DoubleDawg22
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Grammar police on a message board.
Whines the guy who resorted to insulting a school system he doesn't even know the guy went to.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:07 am to DoubleDawg22
I don't think I've ever seen someone so hopelessly obvlivious on a topic. Yeah I'm sure getting one guy "with length" is going to be the program changer to get us to the tournament. With a roster of his own players Fox has made the tournament once in 6 seasons. Why are you so sure that Fox will even play a promising freshman? Crump last year was a top 80 national player and ranked 10th overall in america at his position. He's barely seen the court and when he does is yanked after his first mistake. We're talking about a guy that has 2 guys on scholarship simply because of their last name. I have no idea what you've seen out of fox's roster managment and personnel decisions to make you think that 1 guy who isn't an elite blue chipper is going to turn out fortunes around.
This was supposed to finally be the breakout year. JJ was getting some mentions for some All-SEC teams and is a senior proven scorer. Turtle was supposed to improve some and we added two 4* guards to the mix as well. Parker was finally fully healthy and KPG/Wilridge/Diatta should have all been capable of locking down the swing role. DO was supposed to be our dominant force in the paint after a promising first year and Yante is Yante. No reason why this roster shouldn't have challeneged for a nice seed in the tourney and maybe win a game or 2. And yet we might not even make the NIT! And this is year 8 of fox. How anyone could think we'll be back in the tourney in year 9 blows my mind.
Please do explain. Explain his program building and how many years it takes in your opinion that we should wait to win a tournament game.
This was supposed to finally be the breakout year. JJ was getting some mentions for some All-SEC teams and is a senior proven scorer. Turtle was supposed to improve some and we added two 4* guards to the mix as well. Parker was finally fully healthy and KPG/Wilridge/Diatta should have all been capable of locking down the swing role. DO was supposed to be our dominant force in the paint after a promising first year and Yante is Yante. No reason why this roster shouldn't have challeneged for a nice seed in the tourney and maybe win a game or 2. And yet we might not even make the NIT! And this is year 8 of fox. How anyone could think we'll be back in the tourney in year 9 blows my mind.
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I'm on the train that wants to keep fox because I believe in the way he is building our program is the best for long term growth. If you want to know why I think that I would be happy to explain.
Please do explain. Explain his program building and how many years it takes in your opinion that we should wait to win a tournament game.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 9:31 am
Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:14 am to BranchDawg
For real, I'm not even a product of the public school system. Another swing and a miss.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:07 am to WG_Dawg
Tell me where I said one recruit would elevate our program to new highs.
Also, tell me where I talked about one of these recruits having great length. You try to argue with people but the. You don't really read and try to understand their argument. You just pick out random stuff, try to tell them they are wrong, and then try to say some smart stuff claiming their argument is illogical and flawed. The only thing illogical here is your ability to use or understand logic.
Also, tell me where I talked about one of these recruits having great length. You try to argue with people but the. You don't really read and try to understand their argument. You just pick out random stuff, try to tell them they are wrong, and then try to say some smart stuff claiming their argument is illogical and flawed. The only thing illogical here is your ability to use or understand logic.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:12 am to DoubleDawg22
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tell me where I talked about one of these recruits having great length.
DD22:
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Length is key with this group.
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these guys coming will add value to or team and are replacing people that add zero or little value. Part of that value is length.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:14 am to DoubleDawg22
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Tell me where I said one recruit would elevate our program to new highs.
One of your main talking points the last few pages is how Hammonds is so highly ranked and will improve our roster. Am I incorrect in that?
You also say things like this:
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One of the major reasons Kentucky should have blown us out of the water even without Dearon fox is because they are taller and longer than we are.
when in reality UK beat us because they are a metric frick ton more talented than us and their coach is better than ours could ever dream of being.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:10 pm to WG_Dawg
No, I said all three will help our roster because they give us added length and Rayshaun looks like a player who could play similar minutes to Jordan Harris.
Y'all hate Houston Kessler and rightfully so. We are being in someone that is taller, has greater length, and is a tremendous athlete in comparison. This makes our team better.
We are losing KPG and getting a 6'5 PG who can defend and is more athletic with the ability to create for teammates.
We are losing JJ who shooting less than 30 percent in the season beyond the Arc. We will replace him with Tyree Crump who is bigger. We are bringing in Rayshaun Hammonds who will push Juwan Parker for playing time at the 3. Kid can run, jump, and shoot.
I agree Kentucky is better than us but if we had the length we would have defended better against them. Jordan has became a decent defender on Malik Monk in The second half of the game but he still hit shots. The next best answer could TeShaun Hightower or a 6'7 wing. Having longer players also allows you to clog the lane easier in help defense.
Plenty of ways these three players together make our team better. Crump hasn't had a clue what he is doing until lately. That's why he isn't playing. Got more minutes against Florida and played well for the most part even though he didn't hit a shot. When Jordan Harris has played well, he has stayed in the game. Hammonds is better, bigger, and stronger than both.
Y'all hate Houston Kessler and rightfully so. We are being in someone that is taller, has greater length, and is a tremendous athlete in comparison. This makes our team better.
We are losing KPG and getting a 6'5 PG who can defend and is more athletic with the ability to create for teammates.
We are losing JJ who shooting less than 30 percent in the season beyond the Arc. We will replace him with Tyree Crump who is bigger. We are bringing in Rayshaun Hammonds who will push Juwan Parker for playing time at the 3. Kid can run, jump, and shoot.
I agree Kentucky is better than us but if we had the length we would have defended better against them. Jordan has became a decent defender on Malik Monk in The second half of the game but he still hit shots. The next best answer could TeShaun Hightower or a 6'7 wing. Having longer players also allows you to clog the lane easier in help defense.
Plenty of ways these three players together make our team better. Crump hasn't had a clue what he is doing until lately. That's why he isn't playing. Got more minutes against Florida and played well for the most part even though he didn't hit a shot. When Jordan Harris has played well, he has stayed in the game. Hammonds is better, bigger, and stronger than both.
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