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The best move Kirby can do right now is to let JT start the game

Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:11 pm
Even if it's just for a couple of initial series.

Kirby is predictable to folks like Saban. He taught him everything and he knows his tendencies.

Saban can beat Kirby with 3 and 4 stars only because of it. It's a chess game that Kirby cannot win doing what he does.

He has to shake it up just to get the other side thinking.
Posted by DAWG71
Simpsonville SC
Member since Sep 2013
245 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:27 pm to
So, using your theory, Kirby should make Saban think JT is starting and then start Stets and do everything the opposite of normal to screw with Saban's head...
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
2305 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:43 pm to
If Kirby values his image, he has to roll with JT until he just looks like total arse if it comes to that. At this point, regardless of the circumstances which we are all well aware of, Kirby is known as great recruiter, great defensive guy, AWFUL with evaluation of QB
Regardless of circumstance, our offense remains a only slightly more advanced version of 2017.

We need BVG or Gunner or even Beck to absolutely grab the job by the balls in the upcoming offseason or I fear we’ll be right back in the same vicious cycle.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:44 pm to
JT is the better QB. By far. Play the best player and stop fricking this up.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72872 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:44 pm to
JT is almost the size of Brock Bowers, they could sneak him in at TE.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 1:31 pm to
I mean....you can do that, but every QB has a different rhythm. The pace they call the play in the huddle. The pace they go to the LOS. The pace they call out signals. What snap count they use. The spin on the football on passes. the way the put the ball in a RBs stomach.

There is a reason coaches don't swap out QBs a whole lot. Given a choice most coaches and players prefer to have one QB out there.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11378 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 1:57 pm to
Usually they don't switch out because of talent drop off.

In this case and most on this board believe it's a talent increase to play JT.

Plus, we know what happens when Stetson plays Bama (2 games worth of data). We have no idea what happens with JT.

That is why you try something different.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

At this point, regardless of the circumstances which we are all well aware of, Kirby is known as great recruiter, great defensive guy, AWFUL with evaluation of QB


At this point, WE are not well aware of this. Only a few here make this claim.
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
2305 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:11 pm to
I’ve defended him up until now. I’ll add in the caveat if of course the JTDs camp won’t let him play rumors are true. Then Kirby is basically stuck with Stet
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Usually they don't switch out because of talent drop off.

In this case and most on this board believe it's a talent increase to play JT.


Then why would you only play Daniels for a couple of series?
Even if it's just for a couple of initial series.

[quote]Plus, we know what happens when Stetson plays Bama (2 games worth of data). We have no idea what happens with JT.

And if Daniels loses to Alabama.....would you be arguing for Beck? Vandergriff?

There is a reason Kirby Smart makes the money he makes. One of those reasons is because he is smarter about football than anybody on this board. Yet an awful lot of people on this board want to tell him which moves he should be making because he apparently isn't smart enough to do his job.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

At this point, regardless of the circumstances which we are all well aware of, Kirby is known as great recruiter, great defensive guy, AWFUL with evaluation of QB


quote:

At this point, WE are not well aware of this. Only a few here make this claim.


Maybe you should shoot him an e-mail and point out where he is going wrong. Obviously you should tell him he doesn't know what he is doing and he is an awful QB evaluator.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11378 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

And if Daniels loses to Alabama.....would you be arguing for Beck? Vandergriff?

No, the obvious would be Kirby can't be Saban.

Pretty simple stuff here.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11378 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Then why would you only play Daniels for a couple of series?

If he does well, play him for more series. Thought that would be implied. I guess not.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

No, the obvious would be Kirby can't be Saban.

Pretty simple stuff here.


Life and football is really simple for you, isn't it?

I wonder why you aren't our coach? It pays very well, and you obviously have the answers.

It is so easy to sit on a coach and critiques everything as if it was obvious what should be done.

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

If he does well, play him for more series. Thought that would be implied. I guess not.




No, it wasn't implied or obvious. You obviously have no idea what it does to a team to change QBs out. There is a reason when a #2 comes in for a game for a play or two, all they do is hand the ball off, and it has nothing to do with the QB not being able to pass the ball.

You can (not always, but more often than not) destroy chemistry, timing, trust....I don't know what to tell you.

All I am saying is Kirby gets paid to make these decisions and he has taken us to the playoffs twice.

Either you let him make decisions or you fire him. There is no reason to have the coach if you are not going to let him run the team.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11378 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

I wonder why you aren't our coach? It pays very well, and you obviously have the answers. It is so easy to sit on a coach and critiques everything as if it was obvious what should be done.

Maybe you should take your own advice.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72872 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Maybe you should take your own advice.


He's trusting the coaches, you aren't.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11378 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:29 pm to
Against Bama? No, I’m not.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Maybe you should take your own advice.


Maybe you should go jump in a lake. I'm not second guessing the coaches and acting like they don't know what they are doing.....you are.

I am clearly saying that a coach who sees a kid on and off the field every single day knows more about football than I do and I am willing to allow that coach to make the decisions without me second guessing everything he does.

Y'all are on here saying a coach that makes $8 million a year doesn't know what he is doing....so....I figured since you know more about what is going on and how to evaluate players better than he does.....SURELY you can find at least a Missouri or a Brigham Young that would snap you up and turn their programs around and make a little pocket change to boot.

I'm just trying to help you out!


Correct me if I am wrong. Y'all are saying that Kirby doesn't know what he is doing, right?
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11378 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:04 pm to
There is a lot to second guess from Saturday and the previous year against Bama.

The fact you are saying everything is fine…maybe you should jump into the lake and find a realistic perspective.
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