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re: Maybe Smart wasn't ready for a head coaching job
Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:23 am to GurleyGirl
Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:23 am to GurleyGirl
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Look, Peter, we get it. You think that most of the issues with our current team are related to coaching. But any honest assessment recognizes that the performance of any team is a combination of coaching and the talent of the individual players.
And we get it. If anyone dares criticize Kirby Smart, you are there to tell us it's his first year, doesn't have "his" players, we have a bad OLine etc.....but you can't seem to bring yourself to admit that none of those things explain Vanderbilt, Nicholls St., South Carolina or Missouri.
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But he was an assistant HC and one of the best DC's in the nation for 7 years under Saban who is arguably the best college HC in the nation. Smart also surrounded himself with experienced assistants with Chaney as OC, Pittman as the OL coach and Mel Tucker as the DC. Pittman in particular was highly successful at Arkansas:
So what is the problem, then? Please quit peddling that Vanderbilt, Nicholls, South Carolina and Missouri have the players and we don't. If you don't think we have better players than those teams, then there is no use talking to you.
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Posted on 11/5/16 at 12:52 pm to RD Dawg
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Not even close to the point...just comparing HS backgrounds between both QBs
And pedigree is no guarantee success at the next level.
Posted on 11/5/16 at 12:56 pm to FaCubeItches
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And pedigree is no guarantee success at the next level.
You are right. But some have said that Richt did not recruit a good QB. If you are recruiting 4* QB's it is reasonable to expect to get more than what we got performance wise. I think that was his point, but as always could be wrong.
Posted on 11/5/16 at 3:22 pm to DawgsLife
But look at our 4 stars:
1 didn't play as a senior
The other played In a wing T and kept us from offering Watson on time
The other was a player and practice watcher favorite who impressed on scout team but the coaches did like him and now he is showing his potential at Iowa st
1 didn't play as a senior
The other played In a wing T and kept us from offering Watson on time
The other was a player and practice watcher favorite who impressed on scout team but the coaches did like him and now he is showing his potential at Iowa st
Posted on 11/5/16 at 3:40 pm to djsdawg
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But look at our 4 stars:
1 didn't play as a senior
The other played In a wing T and kept us from offering Watson on time
The other was a player and practice watcher favorite who impressed on scout team but the coaches did like him and now he is showing his potential at Iowa st
You are the one that was arguing that rankings are accurate as a whole and mean something. (Which, I agree with) You can't argue that he didn't recruit decent QB's when he recruited 4* QB's.
If you want to argue that he recruited one QB that did not fit our system (Ramsey) I can agree with you.
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The other was a player and practice watcher favorite who impressed on scout team but the coaches did like him and now he is showing his potential at Iowa st
Potential at Iowa State? Noooooo. You might want to check his stats again. They are not good at all. They are worse than the QB he replaced. maybe he can develop and be a good QB at Iowa State, but he is not showing it at this time.
Posted on 11/5/16 at 4:38 pm to DawgsLife
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You are the one that was arguing that rankings are accurate as a whole and mean something. (Which, I agree with) You can't argue that he didn't recruit decent QB's when he recruited 4* QB's.
As a whole, they have meaning. In specific instances, there are outliers and exceptions especially when they have to learn brand new stuff in college.
I can argue Lemay should have lost the 4th star after his BS as a year of no football is a year of no development.
I can also argue we should have never not offered Watson because of some Wing T QB who should have been a 3 star due to zero development in HS.
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Potential at Iowa State? Noooooo. You might want to check his stats again. They are not good at all. They are worse than the QB he replaced. maybe he can develop and be a good QB at Iowa State, but he is not showing it at this time.
Potential is shown through glimpses like his 2 td passes vs OU. His stats are better than Eason's. Both are showing potential to be good QB's. If we had an OC worth a crap last year, I think Park could have saved Richts job.
Posted on 11/5/16 at 5:18 pm to djsdawg
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Potential is shown through glimpses like his 2 td passes vs OU.
The Oklahoma example sounds very impressive until you realize Oklahoma has a crappy defense. they have given up 33 or more points 5 times this year. I don't consider it a great accomplishment to do that to Oklahoma.
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Both are showing potential to be good QB's. If we had an OC worth a crap last year, I think Park could have saved Richts job.
I'm shocked that you are so sold on Park and so down on Ramsey. Park was well known to fold up in the big games, and did not protect the ball at all. He threw passes up for grabs when pressured. In short, he was, and is, another Brice Ramsey.
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