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re: Looking back on the first game of the Kirby era (2016 UNC)
Posted on 2/13/22 at 7:47 am to BranchDawg
Posted on 2/13/22 at 7:47 am to BranchDawg
I was there. Game was kinda bland, but it was loud. Had a great time!
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Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:00 am to meansonny
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assume that is an approved measure since it is your own (breaking the season into thirds).
Nope. Sample sizes are too small for such a comparison.
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You seem shocked that Y1 for a coach would start rough and steadily improve over the season. 2010 was year 10 for Richt?
Not shocked at all but what year it is for a coach isn’t relevant.
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im judging good bad and ugly, im giving ugly to the team that got worse
Alas, these are full season comparisons. Any perceived improvement is irrelevant as Game 3 counts the same as game 7, the same as game 12.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:06 am to djsdawg
Agree to disagree. Especially dismissing the point differentials as it was one of your primary arguments.
The y1 vs y10 explains why game 1 versus game 10 is different for kirby. Coaching matters.
It also explains todd grantham and the lack of progress on the defense. Coaching matters.
2010 led to 2011 (we still never beat any decent team. Feasted on sisters of the poor).
2016 led to 2017. Consistent improvement. Especially defensively.
The y1 vs y10 explains why game 1 versus game 10 is different for kirby. Coaching matters.
It also explains todd grantham and the lack of progress on the defense. Coaching matters.
2010 led to 2011 (we still never beat any decent team. Feasted on sisters of the poor).
2016 led to 2017. Consistent improvement. Especially defensively.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 10:52 am to meansonny
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You seem shocked that Y1 for a coach would start rough and steadily improve over the season. 2010 was year 10 for Richt?
Sample sizes matter in stats. 4 just isn’t enough for a meaningful comparison.
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The y1 vs y10 explains why game 1 versus game 10 is different for kirby. Coaching matters. It also explains todd grantham and the lack of progress on the defense. Coaching matters.
Well, game 1 of 2016 might have been the best performance of the season. In comparison, We looked worse in games 10-12 vs auburn, Lafayette, tech. Game 3 was about the same as game 9. Add it all up, this major improvement angle of yours isn’t really there, and it wouldn’t be relevant if it were.
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2010 led to 2011 (we still never beat any decent team. Feasted on sisters of the poor). 2016 led to 2017. Consistent improvement. Especially defensively.
The following season is 100% irrelevant.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 3:32 pm to djsdawg
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Sample sizes matter in stats. 4 just isn’t enough for a meaningful comparison.
Lol
The sample size is the exact same as yours. An entire season (13 games). Quit replying if you are just pulling crap out of your arse.
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Well, game 1 of 2016 might have been the best performance of the season. In comparison, We looked worse in games 10-12 vs auburn, Lafayette, tech. Game 3 was about the same as game 9. Add it all up, this major improvement angle of yours isn’t really there, and it wouldn’t be relevant if it were.
I want you to be clear. We didnt improve over the course of the 2016 season? Is that the hill you want to die on? The smart move is to acknowledge that we improved.
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The following season is 100% irrelevant.
Technically, your entire argument is irrelevant.
Your statement was that 2016 was the worst team since the donnan era.
Worst team would have the worst record.
"You are what your record says you are"
-Dennis Green
Ppg differentials are distractions to the record. You play the game to win and lose. The outcome of the game is the same whether you run up the score in the 4th or win by 1 in overtime.
2010 was 6-7. 3-5 in the SEC.
Ranked 3rd best in the East and 9th best in the SEC.
Only 1 week ranked in the top 25. Highest spot was 19th in the coaches poll after week 1.
Sagarin ranked UGA 54th overall at the end of the season.
2016 was 8-5. 4-4 in the SEC.
Ranked 3rd in the East. Tied 6th/7th in the SEC.
Only 4 weeks ranked in the top 25. Highest rank was 9th after week 1.
Sagarin ranked UGA 38th at the end of the season.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 5:19 pm to meansonny
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The sample size is the exact same as yours. An entire season (13 games). Quit replying if you are just pulling crap out of your arse.
What a stupid claim. Do the math. It’s not close to the same. 13 is more than 3x 4.
The Lower the #, the more easily skewed it is, and that’s clearly what you are trying to do with that ole miss game, which might be our worst performance since before #34.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 6:00 pm to meansonny
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want you to be clear. We didnt improve over the course of the 2016 season? I
I am saying 2 things:
1. we didn’t improve much, as proven by game 1 being our best performance + game 9 being very similar to game 3. Are you trying to claim we looked much improved in a game 12 loss to tech?
2. Even if we did improve much, it’s irrelevant as game 3 counts the same as game 12.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 11:07 pm to djsdawg
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What a stupid claim. Do the math. It’s not close to the same. 13 is more than 3x 4.
Please tell me that you didnt graduate from uga. For god's sake, google what a sample size is in statistics.
We both used the same amount of games in 2013.
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The Lower the #, the more easily skewed it is, and that’s clearly what you are trying to do with that ole miss game, which might be our worst performance since before #34.
We won 2 out of our last 5 games in 2010.
We won 4 out of our last 5 games in 2016. The series of games that i broke down in point differentials (your chosen statistic which is not a good measure for "worst team") illustrated that fact very clearly. We improved dramatically in 2016. Especially defensively.
Posted on 2/13/22 at 11:20 pm to djsdawg
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Even if we did improve much, it’s irrelevant as game 3 counts the same as game 12.
Your entire point is irrelevant.
Your claim was worst team and you bring up bullshite about point differentials and then want to ignore detailed analysis about said point differentials.
Take the L
2010 was a worse team than 2016.
There may have been worse teams in the 90s. But 2010 was definitely a worse team than any Smart team.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 9:29 am to meansonny
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Please tell me that you didnt graduate from uga. For god's sake, google what a sample size is in statistics. We both used the same amount of games in 2013.
You literally divided one season up into thirds.
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The series of games that i broke down in point differentials (your chosen statistic which is not a good measure for "worst team") i
That was just one of the 4 measures of comparison used. You specifically asked about which one was adjusted for competition, and you are still conveniently ignoring that advanced stat. You are also ignoring yards per play. We know why.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 10:52 am to djsdawg
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and you are still conveniently ignoring that advanced stat. You are also ignoring yards per play. We know why.
Lol
You can use the word "ignore".
I care not to respond to several points not even worth responding.
In this thread, you make points that are hypocritical and indefensible.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 9:44 pm to meansonny
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I care not to respond to several points not even worth responding.
AKA you arent interested in discussing points that prove you wrong.
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