re: Let's decide Upvote for JT Downvote for Stetson

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I listed the 3 stats that made the difference so big:

Completion % + Yards per attempt + td %

Again, 170 vs 139 isn’t close.

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Okay. If QB rating is the do all and end all.....

Stetson Bennett was the #4 QB in the country in QBR.

Plenty good enough to beat Alabama. In fact, he finished one spot higher than Bryce Young. What were the Heisman voters thinking?

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The team with the best qb won both games. Are you shocked?!

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But Young was not the best QB


Stetson Bennett was the #4 QB in the country in QBR.
Bryce Young was #5.

I mean QBR determines the best QB, does it not?

ETA
Funny. I can't find Calzada anywhere.

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His passer efficiency rating (which is not QBR) was 29 points better in the seccg. This proves Young was far better head to head, which is what we are talking about FYI.

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If only we knew what the head to head was going to be BEFORE a game.

I mean< Calzada had a QBR of 21.3 against Arkansas and 61.3 against MState right before he had 91.2. So, maybe we have to play the game before we know which QB is going to have the better game?

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His passer efficiency rating (which is not QBR) was 29 points better in the seccg. This proves Young was far better head to head, which is what we are talking about FYI.

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By the way...passer efficiency ratingis a much simpler rating that highly favore comp %. Not surprising you would choose that one to proclaim a QB better.

Passer Rating is the official NFL measure of quarterback performance, and its calculation is much simpler than the QBR, as it depends only on aggregate statistics rather than an analysis of each play a quarterback is involved in. Additionally, passer rating double counts completion percentage, favoring quarterbacks who tend to throw screens and other short passes.
HogHaven

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you can never know what any particular QB will do in one particular game.

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You can have a pretty good idea of how a qb will do in certain situations. It’s no guarantee either way though. Odds are odds.

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I am not arguing that QBR is the end all do all, y'all are.

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Who is besides you?

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Don't ya think the level of competition over the course of the season has a little bit to do with efficiency ratings?

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Alabama had the #1 SOS and Georgia was #2.

Team Rankings

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I pointed out with the link (I assume you read it) that QBR is a much more in depth and accurate way to measure. But both methods are used to rate a QB.

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Eh, it’s propriety and ESPN doesn’t disclose how they calculate it.

Never mind the uga d made life so easy on Bennett this year. Other qbs didn’t have that benefit. They faced more difficult situations more often.

Ok. I will make one last comment, then if you want you can make the last point. No use dragging this one and on.

(I combined your last two posts)

Never mind the uga d made life so easy on Bennett this year. Other qbs didn’t have that benefit. They faced more difficult situations more often.

While a defense can make things easier on a QB, do you take away Williams and Metchie for Alabama and try to say Young is not good? no. That would be silly. Imagine what Bennett would have done had he more experienced receivers and played with healthy ones?
I mean you can play "what if" all day long. Sure Bennett had a great defense. young had great receivers.

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Sagarin has bama 6, uga 33. The difference was bigger before the seccg, and it would be even bigger once your remove Clemson.

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Do what? I mean we can both shop around and find a SOS service that compliments our arguments. I took the very first link that came up. They all have their own method of arriving to their conclusion that might or might not be accurate. You can come up with any system to come out with the results you want.

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and it would be even bigger once your remove Clemson.

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This is the part that I found funny, though. So, you are saying if we remove Clemson from our schedule then our schedule would be weaker? Seriously?

What would happen if you remove Ole Miss from Alabama's schedule, I wonder? I mean, yes. If your point is if you remove a difficult team from any schedule that schedule would become weaker, then yes. You are correct.

I think we should remove the hardest teams on Alabama's schedule and see how weak it becomes.

Also, going by SOS is an awful way to say whether or not a QB is good or not. It would be much more accurate to see the top pass defenses they played against.

Georgia faced (pass yards per game regular season):

7 South Carolina
26 Florida
30 Clemson
36 Arkansas
37 Missouri
41 Kentucky

Alabama faced:
12 Texas A&M
26 Florida
36 Arkansas
56 Mississippi State
73 Auburn

Which QB do you think played against tougher pass defenses?


As promised....you can have the last say. You guys can make your post and I won't respond.