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re: 2019 Recruiting Class (NSD - Today; 5* WR George Pickens flips to UGA from Auburn)

Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:42 am to
Posted by howieshoodlums
Member since Dec 2016
970 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:42 am to
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Because he wants to win big. Players want to play with stud qbs. Bama, clemson, and Uga have them. Only Uga doesn’t play ours.


You do remember that Fromm was a high 4* right, I mean if Georgia was running the same offense that Oklahoma is running Fromm would be just as likely to be throwing for 400 yds a game as Fields would.

And lets not forget that Georgia is a running team and if Fields is also running the ball then there will be even less passes for the WRs.
Posted by BreezyDawg
Trembling Earth
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 1:54 pm to
Luke Stampini a UF Mod put in a CB for Webb to Clemson
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:56 pm to
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I must have missed the part where he said he was going to play with a DT or else. Does he prefer? maybe. Is that the only option? Hardly. Who's embarrassed? I would say you are closer than me. I know what players think on a high level. You obviously do not. I have asked you in the past, and I will ask you again. What is the highest level of football you have played?

Fro the grasp you have of some areas of football, I would say it was pretty low.


It doesnt matter what you think "players" think when we know for a fact what Nolan Smith thinks. You meant to say "he could NOT care less who is the QB", and I provided evidence proving you wrong. You should be embarrassed for being wrong and then stooping to insults instead of taking the L.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:02 pm to
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Another interesting thing of note is Owen Pappoe is only about 209LBS, last I checked. that is pretty light for a LB. he could put on some weight, but sometimes they lose some of their speed.
Just as a comparison, Roquan Smith was considered a new type LB that is a little lighter and faster, and I think he played at around 230 or so? Something like that.


Roquan was about the Pappoe size in HS. Got to 230 after 1-2 years at UGA.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:42 am to
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It doesnt matter what you think "players" think when we know for a fact what Nolan Smith thinks.

So, you dodge the question again. You really have no idea how the mind of an athlete works. So, this is going to come as a shock to you. Athletes say a lot of things to the press that they don't really mean. Nolan Smith has been around and done enough interviews to know not to tip his hand and to say what the media wants to hear.
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and I provided evidence proving you wrong.
From a quote in an article? You "proved" nothing more than you can read, and Nolan Smith knows what to say.

In your book and HT's book we will not have Nolan Smith nor Fields next year. Why don't we wait and see if they are with the team before you start assigning wins and losses.
And, again, you have a very low grasp of the human language. I haven't insulted you. I merely pointed out the truth. You have a low grasp of how athletes think. There is a difference between insults and facts. Insults are usually based in opinions. facts are.....facts. You have all but confirmed by your lack of answering that you have little experience playing sports, or in how an athletes think, yet you come on here and state things as fact that simply are not.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:45 am to
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Roquan was about the Pappoe size in HS. Got to 230 after 1-2 years at UGA.

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he could put on some weight,

Maybe you missed this part? And before you point out that Roquan did not lose speed, read this:
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but sometimes they lose some of their speed.


Again you attempt to pull stuff from what people say and try to point that out as they are wrong. That simply isn't the case. Show me which of my statements are incorrect. Come on, man. You are making this personal, and it isn't. You think I am insulting you when I am not, and you insist I am wrong when I am not. Settle down.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:22 am to
saw this on another board that we were on this kid (Edgerrin James' nephew and probable EE
LINK
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:33 am to
eh...seems like we have a good shot at several guys who look superior to Williams. If he ends up in this class, it means our original plans have horribly fallen apart.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Again you attempt to pull stuff from what people say and try to point that out as they are wrong.


Talk about misreading a post. I added to your point but You think I am trying to take away from it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60642 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 3:16 pm to
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Talk about misreading a post. I added to your point but You think I am trying to take away from it.


Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying. If so, my apologies. It appeared you were correcting what i was saying, and I had said that he was light right now, but might put on some weight.

Going on to that point and asking if you...or anybody else knows...Otis Reese was listed as a LB, but is playing as a safety.
Is this because he is having a hard time putting on weight, or do we just prefer him at safety, so we have asked him to keep his weight down?

I guess there are pros and cons to both. He is a hitter, so that is valuable at safety, but, I would think his speed is probably average for a safety, but excellent as a LB.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 4:02 pm to
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Athletes say a lot of things to the press that they don't really mean. Nolan Smith has been around and done enough interviews to know not to tip his hand and to say what the media wants to hear.


I shouldn’t have to make a statement about you probably not knowing how athletes of a younger generation think because you are probably older than their grand parents. That generational gap is huge.

Unless you are a recent high level d-1 defensive recruit that chose to go to an elite athletic prep school, your “experience” is essentially irrelevant. I don’t claim to have that experience. Do you? Of course not, so What you think a young recruit thinks in 2018 isn’t a fact. Its a highly flawed assumption.

Thankfully, I can just point towards actual quotes that get very specific about this subject. He offers insight into his thinking in the subject of a d player’s interest in a qb. That’s the only tangible thing either of us have provided. You have literally brought nothing tangible to support your claim.

So glad I don’t have to desperately cling to some irrelevant question, one that doesn’t disprove or prove a thing, in regards to smith and Fields. There is zero good reason to believe Nolan is lying about these details, and he makes damn good points about the benefits of such a Qb, doesn’t he? Those aren’t signs of lies. It’s evidence of a well thought out and honest response.

Also, I never said we won’t have Nolan next year if fields left. We might be able to Hold on to him, but it won’t be close to the slam dunk it should be. Losing fields wouldn’t help with Nolan. It’s that simple.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60642 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 4:30 pm to
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I shouldn’t have to make a statement about you probably not knowing how athletes of a younger generation think because you are probably older than their grand parents. That generational gap is huge.


This is true. No arguing. And when I played we didn't get the press the kids do today. But, some papers covered players and asked, and the responses really have changed a whole lot. And, they rarely mean anything.

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Thankfully, I can just point towards actual quotes that get very specific about this subject. He offers insight into his thinking in the subject of a d player’s interest in a qb. That’s the only tangible thing either of us have provided. You have literally brought nothing tangible to support your claim.
But you seem to pick and choose which quotes to rely on. It was pointed out recently his tweets, and then was reported in publications that Smith has said he was staying true to Georgia and encouraged people to
be solid. So, to say he would leave because Fields is leaving (which y'all have no basis for, either) is not relying on the information you have...it is picking and choosing which information you choose to believe. The most recent information we have is that Nolan Smith is solid. Now...if Nolan Smith is so close to Fields that he would leave if Fields left...he would know the mindset of Fields right now. Yet, he is tweeting out that he is solid and everybody else should, too.

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So glad I don’t have to desperately cling to some irrelevant question,
You would rather ignore the question because is shines a light on your lack of experience. I can't blame you.

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Also, I never said we won’t have Nolan next year if fields left.

Really?
Nolan is friends with fields. If fields transfers.....
and:
Never said that. Nolan might go to
Bama or clemson. Fields ain’t going to either.


You certainly did insinuate it, then.
You then went on to pontificate on haselwood:
If Fields is our QB, we got a shot at him. If Fromm is our QB, we dont.

You mind explaining where you got those nuggets?

ETA
I would dearly love to prove you wrong over and over and over again, but this is the recruiting thread. if you want to argue with the wall go ahead. Just keep this in mind....this isn't the place for us to go on and on, so I am not going to respond anymore. not because you have cornered me, because I am positive I have shown where you are wrong....I also know you are the type that always has to have the last word. (I can be thta way, too....to a fault) But just because you get the last word doesn't mean you are right. It just means you had the last word.

This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 5:15 pm to
Damn... is the dick measuring contest over? Was hoping for some actual recruiting discussion.



If I think your conversation has gone off the rails into the realm of overly obscure details, you probably are missing the mark for relevancy. Just sayin'...
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:14 pm to
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he is tweeting out that he is solid


Let’s see the tweet.

It must strongly worded to convince you that he isn’t interested in other schools, only has his eyes on Uga, and that any trouble with fields would have zero influence on his final Decision.

Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:19 pm to
Can DawgsLife and djs take their banter elsewhere? While it is tangentially related to recruiting, it has turned into nothing but multiposts and reciprocating responses that are contributing nothing.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:23 pm to
An important tweet from our highest rated recruit is about to go down when life can find it. Be patient.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42082 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:02 pm to
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Let’s see the tweet.


Stay Loyal

You two can create a tenth thread on this topic somewhere else now.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38208 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:30 pm to
That’s the tweet? Check out this one:

LINK
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31539 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:43 pm to
And? The other tweet is 16 days after yours

I have no problem with players taking official visits. They’ve earned it
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42082 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:46 pm to
Check the date big man.
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