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re: Sumlin's Air Raid
Posted on 9/17/12 at 9:38 pm to Palooza11
Posted on 9/17/12 at 9:38 pm to Palooza11
yeah, our blocking scheme has changed and some are struggling with it. We really were awful handling the stunting SMU threw at us in the 1Q which shouldn't happen with such an experienced line. That transition has not been as smooth as the defensive change and I'm a bit surprised by that fact.
Also I don't think Mathews is an ideal tackle in this system because he lacks the long arms needed for the wide splits. He's the best we have but we are going to want a slightly different skill set going forward and a guy like Jake would probably play inside I think.
Think that may be his future at the next level as well because he's not very effective against the bullrush.
Also I don't think Mathews is an ideal tackle in this system because he lacks the long arms needed for the wide splits. He's the best we have but we are going to want a slightly different skill set going forward and a guy like Jake would probably play inside I think.
Think that may be his future at the next level as well because he's not very effective against the bullrush.
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 9:41 pm to tmc94
Yea, our OL is good for lining up under center/i formation and pounding the frick out of you....
Shame we can't mix in a power running game...
Shame we can't mix in a power running game...
Posted on 9/17/12 at 9:42 pm to tmc94
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yeah, our blocking scheme has changed and some are struggling with it. We really were awful handling the stunting SMU threw at us in the 1Q which shouldn't happen with such an experienced line. That transition has not been as smooth as the defensive change and I'm a bit surprised by that fact.
Same.
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Also I don't think Mathews is an ideal tackle in this system because he lacks the long arms needed for the wide splits. He's the best we have but we are going to want a slightly different skill set going forward and a guy like Jake would probably play inside I think.
I tend to agree, but I think he is also a fast and athletic guy that would playing left tackle for a lot of teams. In the screen game he can still be elite.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 9:43 pm to townestoldme2
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He threw strikes in the Florida game and in the SMU game. He leaves the pocket early A LOT, but he is getting better. He has a better arm than every successful qb that leach ever had at tech. Arm strength is not the problem. He just needs to sit when there isn't pressure, and I think he has the tools and the moxy to do it.
Graham Harrell had a much much much better arm than Johnny.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 9:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
Johnny had a nice touch at times against SMU. Couple of nice passes to Evans. That TD pass to EZ, and that one pass to Malcome Kennedy that was incomplete.
Its unfair to say that Graham Harrell had a much, much, much better arm than Johnny. Who is to say that his arm strength improves in the next 3 years?
Its unfair to say that Graham Harrell had a much, much, much better arm than Johnny. Who is to say that his arm strength improves in the next 3 years?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:01 pm to Palooza11
I agree with Palooza. If Harrell had a better arm, it wasn't enough to make a lick of difference. Johnny's arm is underrated because Showers has a cannon.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:05 pm to townestoldme2
does anyone else feel weird, like you're cheating on texags?
what are y'alls sentiments of texags? The only reason i'm curious is because this is only the second message board i've followed. I don't know anything about rivals or 247.
what are y'alls sentiments of texags? The only reason i'm curious is because this is only the second message board i've followed. I don't know anything about rivals or 247.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:07 pm to townestoldme2
Johnny will get stronger too, especially with LJ. He looks much bigger compared to last year, granted he was a true freshman this time last season.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:09 pm to Palooza11
I think he needs to be at least 215 or so to withstand the beating he's going to take with his style.
This post was edited on 9/17/12 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:18 pm to tmc94
Ags type of offense will be good to great for 8 or 9 games this year. I don't like this type of finese running game against the likes of LSU and Bama. D line penetration and fast linebackers are a killer against the Ags current running game. Historically a power running game is needed against these guys. See Oregon as recent example of finese vs LSU.
Florida adjustment was pretty simple. Ends rushed up the field and kept containment in the second half. When Manziel or the backs ran wide, they had to run a little deeper to get around the end. By that time, here came either an LB or a corner.
Ags have to be able to throw the ball 15 to 25+ yards down the field consistently to make the LBs and corners play honest.
Florida adjustment was pretty simple. Ends rushed up the field and kept containment in the second half. When Manziel or the backs ran wide, they had to run a little deeper to get around the end. By that time, here came either an LB or a corner.
Ags have to be able to throw the ball 15 to 25+ yards down the field consistently to make the LBs and corners play honest.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:33 pm to Palooza11
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Its unfair to say that Graham Harrell had a much, much, much better arm than Johnny. Who is to say that his arm strength improves in the next 3 years?
It could, and I hope it does, but as currently constructed it is not there. Graham Harrell could make opposite side of the field comeback route throws on a rope with a very quick release. NFL-type throws. Johnny does not currently possess that. But again, this isn't the NFL, so why does he need to make those type of throws? He doesn't. Now as the college game progresses, the line between college and NFL blurs, but he isn't making 7-step drops. There were only two QBs in the college game that could do that last year, Tannehill and Luck, and neither one of those QBs won anything of significance.
For the record, I was simply countering the poster that said Johnny's arm was better than anything Leach ever had, which is categorically 100% false.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:33 pm to townestoldme2
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does anyone else feel weird, like you're cheating on texags?
No. What does that even mean?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
The only comment I have is about power run vs finesse run. IMHO it's unfair to say a more finesse based run game won't work against Bama and LSU like a power run. Bottom line is that both of those teams are so dominant up front right now that nobody's running style will have much success against them. It was only a few years ago that Florida won 2 MNC's in 3 years with a "finesse" running game. Yes, I'm disregarding Tebow for short yardage situations. We will probably lose to Bama and LSU regardless of our running game this year but I certainly think it's too early to already be doubting its effectiveness. For the record, I fully recognize that improving our current run game will be vital to our success in future SEC matchups.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 11:45 pm to DFWAggie09
I don't think it's possible to overstate how valuable it was to have Sherman here when we talk about the offensive line. Everyone loves Sumlin and with good cause, but of course the OL was going to take a bit of a hit with this new scheme and without Sherman there in practice.
They will figure it out.
They will figure it out.
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