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re: Does anyone believe that Christensen will take over as OC?

Posted on 12/26/15 at 2:04 am to
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 2:04 am to
I agree Sherm in a badass OL coach. Don't know if he would take the job.

That being said, firing the OL coach after one season seems like a quick trigger. Don't know if Sumlin is feeling that desperate.

Is there a reason the OL sucked when DC has been a successful coach for a long time?
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 2:09 am to
Don't know if comparing him to Chavis is fair.

Chavis is a terrific coach and not many coaches will meet that standard.

Chavis definitely had better talent to work with on the defensive line. Our recruiting prior to Chavis was solid on DL.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
8027 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 8:21 am to
McKinney has had a pretty strong recruiting year this year. Not saying I like him, but of all the years to justify letting him go this is probably the most difficult outside of 2012
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:25 pm to
Side note: you guys give Sherman way too much credit for the Offensive line. That 2010 recruiting class was special, but there were a ton of misses. Do you remember Clint Naron, Rhontae Scales, Stephen Barrera, Josh Ayers, and Shep Klinke? Sumlin has a significantly better hit rare than Sherman ever did.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62984 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Sumlin has a significantly better hit rare than Sherman ever did.


On the OL he has a better hit rate? Lol
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Sumlin has a significantly better hit rare than Sherman ever did.


Let's examine that claim a lot more closely:

You could make the argument that Ifedi and Matthews (2012 class) were Sherman recruits.

2013 class - 0/3

Ishmael Wilson - Now at Baylor
Joas Aguilar - Never played a down due to injury
Jeremiah Stuckey - No longer on team

2014 class - 3/6, 4/6 if you're being generous

Jermaine Eluemunor - Barely plays as a backup
Avery Gennesy - Starter, but horribly average
Zach Ledwik - quit the team
Koda Martin - Backup RT
Tank Davis - Hasn't played a down
J.J. Gustafson - backup Center

2015 class - incomplete

Keaton Sutherland - Starting
Erik McCoy - redshirt
Connor Lanfear - wasted redshirt
Trevor Elbert - redshirt

That's a hit rate of 3/9, or 33.3%

Let's compare that to Sherman: (leaving out the 2008 class)

2009 1/4

Stephen Barrera - DT playing OT, injury retirement
Rhontae Scales - bust
Patrick Lewis - Seattle Seahawks
Clint Naron - Injury

2010 - 5/6

Jake Matthews - Atlanta Falcons
Luke Joeckel - Jacksonville Jaguars
Cedric Ogbuehi - Cincinnati Bengals
Shep Klinke - bust
Garrett Gramling - Solid player
Jarvis Harrison - NY Jets

2011 - 2/4

Shayvion Hatten - Moved to DL, retired
Ben Compton - Solid backup
Joe Cheek - 2 year starter
Nate Gutekunst - injuries

2012 class (these were both recruited by Sherman)

Mike Matthews - 3 year starter
Germain Ifedi - 3 year starter

Sherman's hit rate was 10/19, which is over 50%.

Even including Ayers, Thomas (who was a 2-year starter), Lathrop, and Villaviscencio (who played solidly) and moving the 2012 class to Sumlin from Sherman, you get the following

Sherman: 10/21 (47.6%)
Sumlin: 5/11 (45.5%)

To summarize:

1. Your claim is HORRIBLY inaccurate

2. You have to really cook the books to put Sumlin anywhere close to Sherman in terms of recruiting AND DEVELOPING offensive line talent.
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 3:29 pm to
Gramling probably would've at least got a cup of coffee in the NFL (he was invited to the combine) but he retired instead
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9094 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:41 pm to
Per smokinaces; meachum was the rumor but it's not true.
Posted by rugbyag
McKinney, Texas
Member since Sep 2011
1083 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 3:15 am to
Interesting. Did he give a clue as to who it may be? Meachem had to have been the likely candidate at one point for the rumor to be so well heard by connected people.
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