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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:47 pm to CajunTiger_225
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:47 pm to CajunTiger_225
quote:spinspinspin
You apparently arent as informed as you think you are.
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quote:that has nothing to do with anything. You guys, while maybe having some problems with chavis, never thought he would leave. He did, and now apparently you all thought he was garbage and him leaving is a good thing. That's called a spin
Well Im not trying to hurt anyones feelings but the "corndogs" yall go back and forth with on tSECr consider yalls football program inferior
quote:in what way did this work out in your favor? Steele was a flop and now you have to hope aranada is as good as you think he will be
So we're spinning it in our favor even though it worked out in our favor?
quote:so it will take a few years to decide whether or not aranada will be able to accomplish what chavis did but you can say right now LSU has come out on top of the whole chavis thing? Oh
Thats going to take a couple of years to determine that being Chavis was here so long and fielded some nasty defenses.
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:51 pm to WestCoastAg
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Chavis....now apparently you all thought he was garbage and him leaving is a good thing.
I take exception to this. I don't think anyone outside of the rantards thinks Chavis is garbage (as a football coach anyway). Every team has their idiots, don't pick what a few of ours say and treat it like an opinion of the entire fanbase.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:52 pm to DBU
quote:of course not everyone thought this. But that was the narrative that flooded the rant. Hell, Steele being better than Chavis was really prevalent until about half way through the season
Every team has their idiots, don't pick what a few of ours say and treat it like an opinion of the entire fanbase.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 9:00 pm to WestCoastAg
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the rant
99% of tRant is trolls posting the internet equivalent of retarded apes yelling at each other
Posted on 4/3/16 at 9:01 pm to DBU
I don't disagree
Posted on 4/3/16 at 9:11 pm to CajunTiger_225
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That particular situation has seem to work out better for us as well. Even if Aranda turns out to be not as good as advertised LSU still came out pretty damn good.
I don't think you guys are going to enjoy Aranda. He runs a slightly less complicated system than we had with Mark Snyder.
Your lineman will no longer be "playmakers". They are just there to eat up space for the linebackers. Linebackers have to be really intelligent and mature. Talented running backs in the SEC are going to eat this system alive. There are going to be a bunch of disappointed players come this Fall. Many more disappointed fans come by December.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 9:19 pm to WestCoastAg
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that has nothing to do with anything.
Yes it does. Watch closely.
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You guys, while maybe having some problems with chavis, never thought he would leave
I answered this twice now here:
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Well Im not trying to hurt anyones feelings but the "corndogs" yall go back and forth with on tSECr consider yalls football program inferior
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He did, and now apparently you all thought he was garbage and him leaving is a good thing. That's called a spin
Well I didn't say any of that either. Garbage? No. Couldn't close on recruiting worth a dogs arse? Yes.
quote:Your problem is you think everything I'm saying pertains to Chavis directly. Because Chavis left, Brick Haley left. Because Brick Haley left we got Ed Orgeron and Kevin Steele. Because we got Ed Orgeron the dline actually had a pulse for the first time in awhile and they killed it and put together an elite recruiting class. Which without Aranda could have easily fell apart because that hire created alot of excitement and he closed out the class. Now with this elite class Aranda has his tools. And we got the best eggs and most productive players from 5for5 which I was paying the most attention to from OP.
in what way did this work out in your favor?
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Steele was a flop and now you have to hope aranada is as good as you think he will be
But was he really? We still had an effective defense it's not like it was a total disaster his scheme just didn't fit the personnel which I'm sure you'll just say is another spin just to continue to argue with me. Cause that's pretty much the purpose of this. Just to argue with me because WCA. Youre just taking the simple approach while I'm looking at everything as a whole and we are now in a better position to succeed than we were 3 years ago. Frank Wilson has been our biggest loss in the past 5 years and they replaced him imo with the best possible guy.
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 9:39 pm to Chill98
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I don't think you guys are going to enjoy Aranda. He runs a slightly less complicated system than we had with Mark Snyder.
Your lineman will no longer be "playmakers". They are just there to eat up space for the linebackers. Linebackers have to be really intelligent and mature. Talented running backs in the SEC are going to eat this system alive. There are going to be a bunch of disappointed players come this Fall. Many more disappointed fans come by December.
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The 39-year-old native of Redlands, California, near Los Angeles, has been nicknamed the professor because of his bald and pensive demeanor, and he never played college football. But he does not take a complicated, professorial approach to teaching defense
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“I think so much of football is playing with a clear mind, and I think the less checks you have, the less double calls you have,” Aranda said at his introductory press conference at LSU last week. “Meaning, if it’s pro set, we’re playing this. If it’s slot, we’re playing this. The less checks you have, the more play. It’s this call. This is what it is, and no matter what they line up in, this is what we’re playing.”
He doesn't run a very complex scheme at all. He also uses the DL in creative ways to open up space for the LB group. I think we'll be fine.
He's got a great football mind and has never worked with the defensive talent he has here.
That's the last I'm going to talk about LSU on the aTm board.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 9:40 pm to CajunTiger_225
quote:and i already explained how that had nothing to do with it
I answered this twice now here:
quote:kind of goes back to it being funny how all of these things didnt really become that huge of an issue until he left
Well I didn't say any of that either. Garbage? No. Couldn't close on recruiting worth a dogs arse? Yes.
quote:spinspinspinspin
Your problem is you think everything I'm saying pertains to Chavis directly. Because Chavis left, Brick Haley left. Because Brick Haley left we got Ed Orgeron and Kevin Steele. Because we got Ed Orgeron the dline actually had a pulse for the first time in awhile and they killed it and put together an elite recruiting class. Which without Aranda could have easily fell apart because that hire created alot of excitement and he closed out the class. Now with this elite class Aranda has his tools. And we got the best eggs and most productive players from 5for5 which I was paying the most attention to from OP.
quote:spinspinspinspin
But was he really? We still had an effective defense it's not like it was a total disaster his scheme just didn't fit the personnel which I'm sure you'll just say is another spin just to continue to argue with me. Cause that's pretty much the purpose of this. Just to argue with me because WCA. Youre just taking the simple approach while I'm looking at everything as a whole and we are now in a better position to succeed than we were 3 years ago. Frank Wilson has been our biggest loss in the past 5 years and they replaced him imo with the best possible guy.
you COULD be in a better place than you ever were with chavis, which would be really difficult considering all of the top defenses he had at LSU, but to proclaim it now, especially after all of the people who tried to do so last year, is incredibly premature
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:24 pm to WestCoastAg
Yup. You just want to argue. Whatever I say you're just going to say the opposite. You're choosing to be ignorant to troll me. Lol at you.
See this is the opposite of what you do.
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i already explained
See this is the opposite of what you do.
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:27 pm to CajunTiger_225
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You're choosing to be ignorant to troll me.
quote:this is really funny coming from you fwiw
See this is the opposite of what you do.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:57 pm to WestCoastAg
I don't know why it bothers you so much that the football program has moved in a better direction after Chavis which is basically all I was saying and I explained such. But ignorance
Posted on 4/4/16 at 12:00 am to CajunTiger_225
i dont know why it bothers you so much that i just dont agree that LSU is automatically in this better position now than when chavis was there. but spinning
Posted on 4/4/16 at 12:16 am to WestCoastAg
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i dont know why it bothers you so much that i just dont agree that LSU is automatically in this better position now than when chavis was there.
It doesnt bother me, you just arent even attempting to discuss anything. You just repeat your same argument which has consisted mostly of "spinning" and you cant refute anything.
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but spinning
Perfect example.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 12:27 am to CajunTiger_225
quote:sure doesnt look that way
It doesnt bother me
quote:except i am. you just dont like what im arguing so you call it ignorant trolling
you just arent even attempting to discuss anything. You just repeat your same argument which has consisted mostly of "spinning" and you cant refute anything.
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Perfect example
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But ignorance
Posted on 4/4/16 at 12:39 am to WestCoastAg
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except i am
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sure doesnt look that way
Posted on 4/4/16 at 12:45 am to CajunTiger_225
oh you little slut
Posted on 4/4/16 at 12:50 am to WestCoastAg
Posted on 4/4/16 at 7:14 am to CajunTiger_225
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I don't know why it bothers you so much that the football program has moved in a better direction after Chavis which is basically all I was saying and I explained such. But ignorance
I think the jury is still out. LSU just lost their 2nd straight assistant coach in the same number of years. The administration tried to fire the head coach, but couldn't find the $$$ to close.
The state of LA had a great crop of talent last year. This has little to do with the program. There was such a surplus of talent that A&M, Texas, Bama, and Arkansas all benefitted.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 7:17 am to CajunTiger_225
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I don't know why it bothers you so much that the football program has moved in a better direction after Chavis which is basically all I was saying and I explained such. But ignorance
By what metric? Certainly not by results on the field of play.
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