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re: What recruit are you most excited for in the 2014 class

Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by Cjones14
Green Bay, Wisconsin
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:08 pm to
Everybody is a Bama Lock. Everybody Bama has interest from is 1# at there position.I dont know which group is worse anymore Ole Miss or The Gumps. As far as Cameron Robinson goes its seems like Bama made up some ground but I wouldnt say they lead. Hopefully he ends up a Tiger but it could very well go either way.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:14 pm to
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Cjones14


Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:21 pm to
I'm not "butthurt" i just hate when ppl talk out of their a## about something i know isn't true.

By "reliable sources" i mean HS coaches in OK and college scouts, one being from the SEC and the best passing SEC school, Arkansas.


They all have said "Cornwell has a strong arm and good size but bad mechanics and plays in the weakest division in Oklahoma against pitiful defenses...next year he moves to a better league and i'm predicting his numbers will drop, as will his ranking on rivals,scout,24/7,etc.

This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 9:24 pm
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:26 pm to
OU has a better passing game, better quarterbacks, and a better QB coach so don't waste our time with the "BAma offer> OU offer" BS.

OU is 2-0 against Bama in the BCS era...i wouldn't hate too much
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:46 am to
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By "reliable sources" i mean HS coaches in OK and college scouts, one being from the SEC and the best passing SEC school, Arkansas


I'm assuming you are referring to Petrino's staff, because no one would ever label Bielema's offense as the best passing school in the SEC.

And wouldn't you know it that that previous staff's top two QB commitments over the last few years were brothers whose father was on the COACHING STAFF at Arkansas. No reason for bias there.

Very reliable sources my friend.

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They all have said "Cornwell has a strong arm and good size but bad mechanics and plays in the weakest division in Oklahoma against pitiful defenses...next year he moves to a better league and i'm predicting his numbers will drop, as will his ranking on rivals,scout,24/7,etc.


So when he moves up to a better league and faces stiffer competition that also means that he is going to have better teammates.

Kinda refutes you and your "reliable sources" theories that he will struggle next year.

This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 7:48 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:50 am to
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OU has a better passing game, better quarterbacks, and a better QB coach so don't waste our time with the "BAma offer> OU offer" BS.


QB Rankings

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Quarterback Rating Leaders - QualifiedRK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RAT
1 AJ McCarron, QB ALA 211 314 67.2 2933 9.3 85 30 3 22 175.3
2 Aaron Murray, QB UGA 249 386 64.5 3893 10.1 87 36 10 26 174.8
3 David Fales, QB SJSU 327 451 72.5 4193 9.3 78 33 9 26 170.8
4 Tajh Boyd, QB CLEM 287 427 67.2 3896 9.1 69 36 13 31 165.6
5 Geno Smith, QB WVU 369 518 71.2 4205 8.1 87 42 6 19 163.9
6 Marcus Mariota, QB ORE 230 336 68.5 2677 8.0 55 32 6 17 163.2
7 Teddy Bridgewater, QB LOU 287 419 68.5 3718 8.9 75 27 8 28 160.5
8 Taylor Kelly, QB ASU 241 359 67.1 3039 8.5 52 29 9 31 159.9
9 Connor Shaw, QB SCAR 154 228 67.5 1956 8.6 62 17 7 25 158.1
10 Brett Smith, QB WYO 205 330 62.1 2832 8.6 82 27 6 26 157.6
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RAT
11 Matt Barkley, QB USC 246 387 63.6 3273 8.5 83 36 15 14 157.6
12 Nick Florence, QB BAY 286 464 61.6 4309 9.3 80 33 13 18 157.5
13 EJ Manuel, QB FSU 263 387 68.0 3392 8.8 77 23 10 26 156.0
14 Derek Carr, QB FRES 344 511 67.3 4104 8.0 97 37 7 27 155.9
15 Johnny Manziel, QB TA&M 295 434 68.0 3706 8.5 89 26 9 22 155.3
16 Ryan Aplin, QB ARST 276 406 68.0 3342 8.2 74 24 4 15 154.7
17 Chuckie Keeton, QB USU 275 407 67.6 3373 8.3 86 27 9 17 154.6
18 Seth Doege, QB TTU 380 541 70.2 4205 7.8 61 39 16 17 153.4
19 Terrance Broadway, QB ULL 206 315 65.4 2842 9.0 81 17 9 12 153.3
20 David Ash, QB TEX 214 318 67.3 2699 8.5 75 19 8 10 153.3
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RAT
21 Colby Cameron, QB LT 359 522 68.8 4147 7.9 79 31 5 10 153.2
22 Tino Sunseri, QB PITT 256 393 65.1 3288 8.4 77 21 3 38 151.5
23 Bryn Renner, QB UNC 276 422 65.4 3356 8.0 78 28 7 11 150.8
24 Collin Klein, QB KSU 197 304 64.8 2641 8.7 62 16 9 14 149.2
25 Brett Hundley, QB UCLA 318 478 66.5 3740 7.8 71 29 11 52 147.7
26 Kawaun Jakes, QB WKU 200 312 64.1 2488 8.0 70 22 11 23 147.3
27 Clint Chelf, QB OKST 119 197 60.4 1588 8.1 75 15 6 7 147.2
28 Rakeem Cato, QB MRSH 406 584 69.5 4201 7.2 72 37 11 26 147.1
29 Tyler Bray, QB TENN 268 451 59.4 3612 8.0 72 34 12 8 146.3
30 Jordan Lynch, QB NIU 237 394 60.2 3138 8.0 73 25 6 17 144.9
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RAT
31 Landry Jones, QB OKLA 367 555 66.1 4267 7.7 76 30 11 13 144.6


Try again.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 7:52 am
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 9:24 am to
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MSfootball123


I just wanna let you in on a little secret

TideSaint is the best damn QB evaluator I have personally had the chance of knowing

just thought you'd like to know
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 9:26 am to
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BuccWildBammer


Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 9:34 am to
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OU has a better passing game, better quarterbacks, and a better QB coach so don't waste our time with the "BAma offer> OU offer" BS.

OU is 2-0 against Bama in the BCS era...i wouldn't hate too much


ZOOOMMMMGGGGGG

Really........REALLY?

Let me just ask you ONE question....how much of OU's BS "passing game success" would you trade for 3 out of the last 4 NC's?

Come on Man

AJ threw 30 TDs and THREE INTs
Landry threw 30 TDs and ELEVEN INTs
Bama had TWO rushers over 1K yds
OU had 0
(even against putrid Big12 defenses)
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 9:37 am to
SECRb is fun sometimes...we get to out "supposed SEC fans" find out people's true nature and be troll hunters all in one post/thread
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83639 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 9:50 am to
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SECRb is fun sometimes...we get to out "supposed SEC fans" find out people's true nature and be troll hunters all in one post/thread


What kills me is this guy is the only documented person on the internet that believes Hansen is better than Cornwell, yet he has the gall to say I don't know what the frick I'm talking about.

But don't forget, "he has sources." :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:35 pm to
yea..leave out passing yards and completions you stupid hillbilly gump lmao AJ is a system QB, the guy has more talent around him then any other QB in the nation and still has 1000+ less yards and less completions then LJ.

SEC secondary's aren't as good as Big 12 secondary's either..it's easier to pass in the SEC because it's a predominantly smashmouth run league. You idiots wouldn't understand this..you base it off the NC's, when that has nothing do with who the better QB is.


OU always has great QB play...BAMA has never had great QB's..not even McCarron IMO..he's spoiled with the best O-line, RB's, WR's,TE's,Coaches in the country. Mccarron doesn't carry that team...the RB's/Oline and Defense do.


Lol you retarded gumps actually thought you made sense? smdh...
Posted by MSfootball123
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
189 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:40 pm to
When Cornwell falls behind Hansen before Signing Day i'll create a thread so y'all can apologize for going full retard.


Doubtful Bama lands Cornwell anyway
Posted by Landsharks
Shreveport, louisana
Member since Jan 2013
8032 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:43 pm to
I can't stop laughing.... Big 12 secondary's are THE TOP IN THE LEAGUE NOBODY IS frickING WITH THE BIG 12...
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83639 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:01 pm to
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AJ is a system QB


Says the guy whose favorite team runs a gimmick offense. Uh, you do realize that Alabama runs a PRO-STYLE offense right?

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the guy has more talent around him then any other QB in the nation


Again, we are back to an offer from Alabama >>>>>>>>>> an offer from OU. Thanks for making my point for me.

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still has 1000+ less yards and less completions then LJ


With how many more attempts? Yet AJ has the same number of TDs. And a better completion percentage. And a higher QB Efficiency rating.

Who has buckled under the pressure against above average defenses? Not AJ. BCSNC Game MVP in one title game and threw 4 TDs in another.

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SEC secondary's aren't as good as Big 12 secondary's either


Oh you just called down the wrath of everyone on this board now. How has OU performed in their two chances against a SEC team in the title game? 0-2.

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OU always has great QB play...BAMA has never had great QB's..not even McCarron IMO..he's spoiled with the best O-line, RB's, WR's,TE's,Coaches in the country. Mccarron doesn't carry that team...the RB's/Oline and Defense do.


Again, for the third time, an offer from Alabama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an offer from OU.

At this point, my only reaction to whatever you have to say from now on is going to be this:

This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:10 pm to
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yea..leave out passing yards and completions you stupid hillbilly gump lmao AJ is a system QB


He is in a pro-style system, he made more NFL throws in the SEC CG & NCG than Landry did all yr

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the guy has more talent around him then any other QB in the nation


Great OL this is true, WRs are debatable, again you are dumb, and that is a dumb point, OU has RECRUITED arguably better the last 3 or 4 years at the WR position
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Scatmanjohn12
Grand Prairie, Louisiana
Member since Feb 2013
1090 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:13 pm to
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No because the kid has already said Bama is his leader

When did he say this?
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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23340 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:22 pm to
Continued:

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still has 1000+ less yards and less completions then LJ.


We had 2 1K yd rushers, and AJ LED THE COUNTRY in completion percentage, more or less completions doesn't matter, percentages do

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SEC secondary's aren't as good as Big 12 secondary's either..


You're about to see the top 2 CB's taken in this draft, SEC products, top S arguably, SEC COME ON!

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it's easier to pass in the SEC because it's a predominantly smashmouth run league. You idiots wouldn't understand this..you base it off the NC's, when that has nothing do with who the better QB is.


MUCH easier to pass in the Big 12 bottom line, not even CLOSE. ONLY QB I considered BETTER than AJ this yr was Aaron Murray from UGA, another SEC product, but since you're so blatantly biased toward OU, you probably don't think either are better, but trust me they are

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OU always has great QB play...BAMA has never had great QB's..not even McCarron IMO..


OOOHH REEEAAAAALLYYY!!!!! Because Bama's HISTORY in College Fball has NO great QB's, Ken Stabler & Joe Willy were average I guess as was Bart Starr, the 1st AND 2nd Superbowl MVP

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he's spoiled with the best O-line, RB's, WR's,TE's,Coaches in the country. Mccarron doesn't carry that team...the RB's/Oline and Defense do.


He didn't win the NC game last year? He didn't throw the screen pass that beat LSU? He didn't match Murray's scores in the SEC CG (He still had a couple awesome throws in the NCG, but you're right about that game we could've had Blake Sims at QB and won lol)

COME ON MANN!!!!
Posted by TideSatchel
Member since Nov 2011
2581 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:24 pm to
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SEC secondary's aren't as good as Big 12 secondary's either
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:29 pm to
mistaken sorry he said we were even with LSU in the top 2, talks rather complimentary about both schools seems like a great kid
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