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re: The SEC's 25 scholarship rule question

Posted on 7/9/12 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by engie
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Posted on 7/9/12 at 9:25 pm to
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Of the 19 we signed last year, Ken Marshall, Matt Davis, Otis Jacobs, and Derel Walker were all early enrollees. Wouldn't that mean we can count up to 10 towards the 2012 class if they all enroll early?



You can't just blindly backcount 4 from last year. You have to have the space from the previous class to allow them to be backcounted below 25. This is actually a continual effect, so technically, it's possible you could backcount quite a bit more than that, since you've undersigned lately.

Have you been told a hard number? My guess(assuming you had enough EE's to cover here)

2009 - Over
2010 - 22(can't back count any)
2011 - 23(can back count 3) effectively 20
2012 - 20(can back count 5) effectively 15
2013 - 24 current(can take 25 + backcount 10 more)

By my estimate, you can take 11 more players and still be within SEC rules, assuming you get 10 EE's. This is hard to assume though, because I don't know how many guys have EE'd for you every year, and if it was enough to cover these back count numbers, your max take could be a good bit less.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/10/12 at 6:22 am to
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2009 - Over


No early entries

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2010 - 22(can't back count any)


Clay Honeycutt, Matt Joeckel, Luke Joeckel, and Jameill Showers were all early entries

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2011 - 23(can back count 3) effectively 20


Donnie Baggs, Joseph Cheek, Johntel Franklin, Steven Jenkins, and Johnny Manziel were all early entries

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2012 - 20(can back count 5) effectively 15


Ken Marshall, Matt Davis, Otis Jacobs, and Derel Walker were all early entries

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2013 - 24 current(can take 25 + backcount 10 more)


I only count 23. Jamar Gibson is listed as a commit on some sites, but not on others. At least 6 are expected to EE.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/10/12 at 7:38 am to
Heck A&M why don't y'all just try to break Houston Nutt's record and sign 40 this year.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81200 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 10:31 am to
Why would we do that and limit what we could do for 2014 recruiting?
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 7/10/12 at 11:13 am to
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Why would we do that and limit what we could do for 2014 recruiting?



Exactly, Sherman's previous recruiting/undersigning has you set up to not really be hit by the 25 rule for quite a few years, provided you don't get outrageous with it.

By my estimate, you can take the full 25, plus 9 EE's. Filling the full allotment of EE's is a logical goal every year, since whatever you don't use you essentially lose in the 2nd yr. Then just undersign in the rest of the(late enrolee) class, so you have room for more EE's the next year.

Essentially, A$M could sign 28 every year for the next 3 years before they are stuck under the(true) 25 rule...
This post was edited on 7/10/12 at 11:19 am
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