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re: KJ Bolden - get your bets in now - UGA, AU, FSU or BAMA (commiting on Saturday at 7pm)
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:23 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:23 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I don’t know about all of them but Jordan Davis wasn’t a 3*. Which makes me suspicious of your list
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:25 pm to GruntAu
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:58 am to GruntAu
Jordan Davis was 100% a 3 star
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:09 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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They are just guessing.
Aren't we all?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:42 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Aren't we all?
Nah, I saw it on a message board so it must be true
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:49 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Over that same time frame, they've developed 3 players who were 3 stars or less on the defensive side. Congrats
Terral Bernard
Kei'Trel Clark
Daniel Thomas
Took about 5 mins to also find the below. Think this puts AU's defensive staff > UGA's in terms of development... wow
Andre Jones
Jalen Pitre
JT Woods
Will King
Durrell Johnson
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:25 pm to ALhunter
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Andre Jones
Jalen Pitre
JT Woods
Will King
Durrell Johnson
Which position coaches for AU developed them?
Woods is a safety and Roberts was the LB coach/DC.
Pitre same thing as Woods
Will King same thing as Woods.
Johnson went undrafted.
Jones played LB at Louisiana but if he was an OLB he wouldn't have been coached by Roberts.
Got any more that I can debunk for you?
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/10/23 at 9:33 am to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:Roberts is the DC... all defensive player development falls under him. Just like all player development at UGA falls under Kirby.
Which position coaches for AU developed them?
Woods is a safety and Roberts was the LB coach/DC.
Pitre same thing as Woods
Will King same thing as Woods.
Johnson went undrafted.
Jones played LB at Louisiana but if he was an OLB he wouldn't have been coached by Roberts.
Got any more that I can debunk for you?
You're really grasping at straws now that this isn't going your way eh? Go ahead and take your L, learn your lesson, and stop making up weird homer claims you haven't researched.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 8/10/23 at 10:44 am to ALhunter
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Roberts is the DC... all defensive player development falls under him. Just like all player development at UGA falls under Kirby.
You really want to stretch this out. Muschamp developed the following then while he was at USC. That's the same amount AU's entire staff
Rashad Fenton
Javon Kinlaw
DJ Wonnum
TJ Brunson
Jaycee Horn
Ernest Jones
Israel Mukuamu
Posted on 8/10/23 at 1:40 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:You're going to need to go do the entire AU staff if you want to make this claim.
You really want to stretch this out. Muschamp developed the following then while he was at USC. That's the same amount AU's entire staff
Rashad Fenton
Javon Kinlaw
DJ Wonnum
TJ Brunson
Jaycee Horn
Ernest Jones
Israel Mukuamu
I'm not the one making homer claims so I'm not doing your research for you.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 8/10/23 at 1:49 pm to ALhunter
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I'm not the one making homer claims so I'm not doing your research for you.
Nah, I’m good. I gave you data and you keep going in circles. I’ve proven my point. Enjoy you 6-6 season
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:40 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:The perpetual homer. Happy to hear you're going to back off the claim and pipe down.
Nah, I’m good. I gave you data and you keep going in circles. I’ve proven my point. Enjoy you 6-6 season
I will enjoy the fall regardless of how the season goes... the quality of my life isn't determined by a college football team lmao
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 8/10/23 at 5:09 pm to ALhunter
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The perpetual homer. Happy to hear you're going to back off the claim and pipe down.
Not backing off at all. I gave you proof and you just keep going in circles.
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the quality of my life isn't determined by a college football team lmao
I remember saying that too during our 40 year drought. I’ll be happy either way but life’s a little sweeter win your team wins it all. You’ll know one day after Kirby retires
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:13 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:You did not give proof.
Not backing off at all. I gave you proof and you just keep going in circles.
I can say "Alabama is better at winning national titles than Georgia", because I know the numbers and can list the number of titles won by each team if pressed.
Hell, if you said "Georgia is better at winning titles than Auburn" I would have to agree because there is data supporting that argument.
But if you can't list the number of guys that are <3* each staff put into the league, then you're just making an ignorant statement and the fact that you can't admit that is just weird and very homerish.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 7:54 am to ALhunter
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But if you can't list the number of guys that are <3* each staff put into the league, then you're just making an ignorant statement and the fact that you can't admit that is just weird and very homerish.
Except for one little thing. This all started because LongDawg said this:
because UGA not only gets the high ranked players but also coaches them up while also developing lower ranked players
And you twisted into this:
This is delusion... you have one of the top two most talented rosters in the country every year. With that talent level you should be in the title conversation every year. Don't pretend UGA is some kind of underdog that's "coaching em up" to make the playoffs like a TCU or a Cincy.
They have proven that Georgia takes highly ranked players. They also have proven that Georgia also takes low ranked players and develops them up into excellent players.
Just because you want to twist and morph the conversation does not mean they have to.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:08 am to AU_RX
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FSU
Because FSU will beat LSU again.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:56 am to DawgsLife
If all he said was UGA is good at coaching players up I'd have no problem with it.
He tried to say that UGA staff is better at developing talent than the current AU staff. Half-baked homer claim with no data and certainly no apples-to-apples way to compare.
He tried to say that UGA staff is better at developing talent than the current AU staff. Half-baked homer claim with no data and certainly no apples-to-apples way to compare.
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Who said AU can’t get talent? I said UGA is better at developing defensive talent than AU’s current staff. Which they are by a wide margin
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 11:57 am
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:10 pm to ALhunter
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If all he said was UGA is good at coaching players up I'd have no problem with it.
Ok. Let me say it again. This is exactly what started all of this. Direct quotes from both of you:
because UGA not only gets the high ranked players but also coaches them up while also developing lower ranked players
And you twisted into this:
This is delusion... you have one of the top two most talented rosters in the country every year. With that talent level you should be in the title conversation every year. Don't pretend UGA is some kind of underdog that's "coaching em up" to make the playoffs like a TCU or a Cincy.
quote:That is what YOU morphed it into. I gave you the direct quote above.
He tried to say that UGA staff is better at developing talent than the current AU staff. Half-baked homer claim with no data and certainly no apples-to-apples way to compare.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:19 pm to DawgsLife
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Who said AU can’t get talent? I said UGA is better at developing defensive talent than AU’s current staff. Which they are by a wide margin
You're mistaken. This is the exact quote from Peter Osborne that started the back and forth. Look at the bottom of pg. 4.
quote:Then this...
You’re really stretching this thing out to try and fit your narrative. I’ve said UGA’s staff develops defensive talent better than AU’s and you continue to try and deflect. We bring in a ton of talent but we also develop those lower ranked players too.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 1:18 pm to ALhunter
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He tried to say that UGA staff is better at developing talent than the current AU staff. Half-baked homer claim with no data and certainly no apples-to-apples way to compare.
I gave you the data. I looked at each position coach on AU's staff and went back to the start of Kirby's coming home to UGA. You don't like my data, and instead of saying it's wrong and providing proof, you just ask for more. These are the players that each staff has produced that were drafted into the NFL. You wanted to expand it to DC's as well, so I included Muschamp's time at USC. If you want to dig up some more data to show I'm wrong, then go for it.
UGA
Rashad Fenton
Javon Kinlaw-1st round
DJ Wonnum
TJ Brunson
Jaycee Horn-1st round
Ernest Jones
Israel Mukuamu
Chris Smith
Jordan Davis-1st round
Eric Stokes-1st round
Tae Crowder
Deandre Baker-1st round
AU
Terral Bernard
Kei'Trel Clark
Daniel Thomas
Jalen Pitre
JT Woods
Will King
Durrell Johnson
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