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re: Jeffery Simmons - 36 overall - #3 DE - Noxubee County, MS
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:03 am to Whereisomaha
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:03 am to Whereisomaha
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He flat out said he wants out of Starkville.
Yeah. I can read. I have an account. Recruits always say exactly what they mean and tell nothing but the truth, blah, blah, blah. But we are the most gullible fricks? fricking listen to yourself.
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He more than likely ends up at State
So, what's the point of this conversation again? If you telling yourself that AJ Brown wants out of Starkville makes you feel better, then knock yourself out.
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:09 am to DynastyDawg
Was not targeted at you particularly (you were just the latest poster).
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:09 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
I know, I was just generally commenting.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:10 am to DynastyDawg
Only WiO knows the hopes and dreams of this 17 year old kid that he has never met.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:10 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:41 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
I actually know someone that does know him. This person is an MSU fan. When I asked him about which way AJ is leaning he said he has never said what school he prefers but he does want "to go away for college".
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:42 am to Tennessee Jed
ITT I've learned that Rebal and State posters all have micropeens and OM posters are still butthurt over Drew Richmond a year later.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:52 am to TheDarrell McSteal
Wow it took you that long? I learned the first day on tRant that all Vol fans (especially the "Old Guard" lead by SOJ) are delusional trolls. How about deem apples?
Posted on 12/9/15 at 9:53 am to Whereisomaha
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Chris Jones wasn't a project just because he flew under the radar for so long. He eventually got his fifth star because he dominated in just his second year of every playing ball being his senior year. The fact the RN improved each year when he was so "polished" (never played DT in his life) is more of a testament to OM's development. Chris was better than Rob as a freshman and had a terrible sophomore year with a junior year leaving him out of the first round while Robert was an AA last year and projected first rounder.
This whole development argument is so stupid. It's something y'all came up with to justify recruiting like shite. Y'all have crazy coaching turnover and y'all didn't invent the wheel. Balis or any other S&C isn't doing anything that any other competent program doesnt do. This is not Houston Nutt. That theory doesn't fit when the guy who is out recruiting you also can develop, evaluate, and run a competent, efficient program.
He was a 5 star that everyone said was raw. RK was a 5 star that everyone used the words "most polished" about. I mean, are u frickin stupid or something? No one said he was a project. But if you think one didn't need more development, you're a goddamn retard. Plus he changed positions. He was a 5 star DE. If you havent noticed from watching games while smearing butter all over your hairy fat body while your mama makes you fried bologna sandwiches, he has played DT in college. His body changed more and he had less football iq than RK. So yeah dipshit, there was a much different level of development involved wit them.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:24 am to DynastyDawg
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So, what's the point of this conversation again?
I gave my point when I was talking to skirp and gave my point in my last post. But since it is still going over your head, once again, the point is if there is anything significant regarding influences that may affect a recruits decision, we know what they are at this point in the recruitment. Skirp made the comment that Simmons will probably go to the school he pulled for growing up, assuming that D1 athletes are like us message board fiends and grew up loving a team. For instance we know that Benito grew up a Bama fan, that AJ's parents want him to go to State, that Nigel wants out of the state, that DK's parents obviously want him at OM, etc. The whole point of bringing up details we all know about AJ's recruitment is that if there were anything that would sway Simmons' commitment like a child hood fandom then we would all know of it by now.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:34 am to SouthOfHere
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Plus he changed positions. He was a 5 star DE. If you havent noticed from watching games while smearing butter all over your hairy fat body while your mama makes you fried bologna sandwiches, he has played DT in college
You just described RN. Why cant you people read the comments you are responding to before responding? I already pointed out that RN polished" DE means nothing, even though when describing him as a player, "raw" was used more than "polished". I actually watched him play and actually followed his recruitment. Just because he was the #1 DE in the country does not make him a polished DT. To this day, scouts will call Robert a "raw" talent. Thats why he is projected so high. And yes, the word "project" was used to describe CJ. Once again, go back and read the shite you are replying to. And I do agree that CJ was more unpolished and more of a project than RN. That was my point. RN developed more at OM when he came in more polished as you said than CJ, which is more of statement to our ability to develop. And I dont necessary believe that. I think the development argument is always overblown.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:35 am to SouthOfHere
After their Freshman season, every single State fan claimed that Chris Jones was far superior to Rob. Now here we are. Rob is the #1 DT going into the draft while Chris is not even top 10.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:41 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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eah. I can read. I have an account. Recruits always say exactly what they mean and tell nothing but the truth, blah, blah, blah. But we are the most gullible fricks? fricking listen to yourself.
No, you listen to yourself. Between the two of us who is more gullible. The guy who is going off of what the kid said or the guy who is saying, forget what the kid said, because recruits say things they dont mean sometimes, that means this is not true at all. It is untrue that a kid who grew up in the worst SEC town would want a change of scenery for his college days, even though he said as much, that isnt true and I am not being bias at all.
And yes, kids say things in recruiting all the time that have zero factor on where they end up. That doesn't mean those things are not true. It means that they weren't a deciding factor. Benito grew up a Bama fan. He didn't lie when he said that simply because he ended up at OM. If AJ ends up at state, which I think is most probable, it doesn't mean he was lying about wanting to get out of Starkville. It just means that other factors meant more to him than having to stay in Starkville another 4 years.
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Only WiO knows the hopes and dreams of this 17 year old kid that he has never met
The people disagreeing with me are the ones who are making assumptions. All I am going off of is what the kid said. AJ Brown said he wants out of Starkville. You people are the ones who are guessing what is in his head.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:03 am to Whereisomaha
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You people
wow
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:10 am to Whereisomaha
Ole Miss fan: AJ wanted to come to Ole Miss. It's where his heart really was but his parents wouldn't let him leave Starkville. It's tragic some of these parents won't let there kids make their own decisions.
Some other Ole Miss fan: My cousin knows AJ and he said for a fact AJ wanted out of Starkville but he said "he had to do what was best for his family". TIFWIW
Some other Ole Miss fan: My cousin knows AJ and he said for a fact AJ wanted out of Starkville but he said "he had to do what was best for his family". TIFWIW
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:31 am to tb27688
Actual OM fan: we are loaded at WR and we will be fine without him. State got a great one.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:44 am to tb27688
AJ should go ahead and commit to State if he is sold on them. We had no problem locking up DK
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 11:45 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:52 am to tb27688
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Ole Miss fan: AJ wanted to come to Ole Miss. It's where his heart really was but his parents wouldn't let him leave Starkville. It's tragic some of these parents won't let there kids make their own decisions.
Some other Ole Miss fan: My cousin knows AJ and he said for a fact AJ wanted out of Starkville but he said "he had to do what was best for his family". TIFWIW
Everyone who isn't a clueless tard knows that AJ is going to MSU, it's fine.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:14 pm to Billy Mays
He's being held against his will though.
Everyone knows he hates it, he just has no choice. Even Reverend Freeze cannot liberate AJ from the Scientologist Dan Mullen.
Everyone knows he hates it, he just has no choice. Even Reverend Freeze cannot liberate AJ from the Scientologist Dan Mullen.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:40 pm to DynastyDawg
Why does it bother you so much that a kid actually doesnt think Starkville is that great? It doesnt bother me if a kid doesnt like OM because our stadium is small or havent won a title. If playing in front of 100K is more important then what makes OM standout, we wont get that kid. So why do State fans have such a hard time with Starkville not helping their cause in recruiting? Is it because it is better than most towns in MS and thats what you compare it to? You realize these kids are comparing college towns to college towns, not college towns to their hometowns, right?
This topic has turned into an AJ Brown discussion because it hurts yall's feelings so much when people speak negatively about starkville. The only reason starkville and AJ got brought up is because we were talking about whether Simmons grew up a fan of a school inside the state. If he did, we would know about it, just like we know that AJ would like out of Starkville. At this point in the recruiting process, if there is a factor that will dictate where a kid will go, it is known by now.
If a kid kept saying that he wanted to play in front of 100K I would not get upset at him looking at other school's other than OM. That is one of our shortfalls, just like Starkville is one or yours. And hell, kids that grow up in Oxford would like a change of scenery too. Its not even a shot at the town of Starkville for a kid that grew up there wanting to experience something knew. Everyone would. AJ is going to State not because he actually wants to stay in Starkville and just says shite like that to piss off state fans, but because the #1 factor in just about every D1 kid's recruitment is momma, and she wants him at State.
This topic has turned into an AJ Brown discussion because it hurts yall's feelings so much when people speak negatively about starkville. The only reason starkville and AJ got brought up is because we were talking about whether Simmons grew up a fan of a school inside the state. If he did, we would know about it, just like we know that AJ would like out of Starkville. At this point in the recruiting process, if there is a factor that will dictate where a kid will go, it is known by now.
If a kid kept saying that he wanted to play in front of 100K I would not get upset at him looking at other school's other than OM. That is one of our shortfalls, just like Starkville is one or yours. And hell, kids that grow up in Oxford would like a change of scenery too. Its not even a shot at the town of Starkville for a kid that grew up there wanting to experience something knew. Everyone would. AJ is going to State not because he actually wants to stay in Starkville and just says shite like that to piss off state fans, but because the #1 factor in just about every D1 kid's recruitment is momma, and she wants him at State.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 12:43 pm
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