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re: Going down to the wire, a lot of prospects are in flux ...

Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20505 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Auburn could benefit some too. Actually, Auburn is a lot like UF right now, only in better shape. They're sitting at #11 with ten schollies yet to give and they're on some Final Five lists in Georgia and Florida.


Auburn is currently #8 with today's commit, with lots more to go. Depending on who they close with, this will be a top 5-7 class.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61745 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:52 pm to
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And, it's already received the thumbs down, but is this different than what we're hearing with BMac?


Just because two coordinators run the same style offense does not mean they will get the same results. Scheme, game planning, available talent, play calling, in game management all play into it. Roper just wan't very good.

Don't get me wrong....fair questions, but you seem to be fixating on the offensive style and discounting all the other factors.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Total offense rank nationally:


Not a particularly useful stat as it doesn't account for relative schedule difficulty, efficiency, etc. S&P+ year end does a pretty good job of actually accounting for all the factors and plugging that into a reasonable rating system.

S&P+ for UF under Muschamp:

2013: 100
2014: 74

S&P+ for USC under Muschamp:

2016: 107
2017: 88
projected 2018: 42

Projections are just that, but it would seem somewhat intentionally obtuse to pretend like this is a carbon copy of how things went down at UF. Not to mention he took over a roster that still had a lot of talent at UF - just had some character problems. At USC, he's having to rebuild from a general talent deficiency in the waning years of SOS. Add to that, that traditionally, USC hasn't competed for the same caliber of athlete, and I'd say you're seeing an improved Muschamp over the UF years. That may or may not be enough to make them what they want to be, but it's not insignificant either.


As to your reply to me, might need a bit more context for what point you were making. My comment was simply pointing out the discrepancy between 2 statements you made in the same post.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13152 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:17 pm to
My point is this: I just don't see enough data here to say Will is better than he was at UF. Nothing in any kind of substantial way. Could he be? Yes. But we have not seen that yet. Given what we have seen, I'm just surprised that most seem to think he's doing much, much better in Columbia. If he can improve upon what he did last year, then I think there would be something concrete to fall on. But he hasn't done that yet and there is data to suggest SC may not be as good record wise this year.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13152 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Just because two coordinators run the same style offense does not mean they will get the same results.

True, but it doesn't mean they won't. Will claimed UF's offense would be more up tempo with Roper. It never was.

Will it be with BMac? We'll see.

I believe this was discussed on Finebaum very early in the year with one of the ESPN SEC talking heads. The thought was the offensive change is coming because he realizes that he can't go mano y mano with Georgia and other teams who will likely out recruit him based on recruiting bases. Since his Oline will not be able to matchup physically with the opposing Dline, this will help to even things up.

As the guy interviewed pointed out though, Will is a defensive guy. As well as he's recruiting he doesn't have the defensive depth just yet to roll guys in and out at the same level as UGA or Bama on that side of the ball. What's he gonna do when he's actually in a game where his first string is sucking air and BMac's had a couple of three and outs and another drive with one first, but only ran about 90 seconds off the clock?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13152 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:50 pm to
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With Early Signing Day creeping-up on us


This quote just makes me sad. ESD is after the season before the bowls. We haven't even started the football season yet. The reason we recruit in the first place, and it's "creeping up".
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