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re: Georgia now has the #1 football recruiting classes in 2018 and 2019 and....
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:31 am to atlgator
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:31 am to atlgator
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Fancy way of saying that Kirby is dropping big bags and letting basketball borrow some too.
I see the jig and I respect it. Just gotta hope y’all win a national championship before y’all get caught
Finally playing everyone else's game. Is the NCAA really interested in burying a huge program in the closest proximity to the biggest college football market in America?
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:00 am to Crowknowsbest
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Finally playing everyone else's game. Is the NCAA really interested in burying a huge program in the closest proximity to the biggest college football market in America?
I’m glad Florida’s getting back into the game with Mullen
Jacksonville is gonna be fun in the next few years
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:04 am to atlgator
Yeah can't believe Georgia players are going to Georgia. Obviously paying them
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:38 am to TideSaint
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I heard chatter about Kirby bringing some new horses back from California....
Everyone knows you get horses from Kentucky.
Kirby's not ready for big time college equestrian.
This is the horse of which he speaks - Isaac Taylor Stuart
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:42 am to atlgator
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I’m glad Florida’s getting back into the game with Mullen
Jacksonville is gonna be fun in the next few years
Not fun if you are a Jort-wearing Gator!
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:10 pm to dawg4lyfe
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Yeah can't believe Georgia players are going to Georgia. Obviously paying them
You’re very naive or in denial.
Just own it. It’s okay.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:14 pm to Long Dawg
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Not fun if you are a Jort-wearing Gator
Thank God I don’t wear jorts
In all seriousness, Florida needs to start stockpiling talent on the lines of scrimmage and when they do, they will be able to compete with Georgia. They have the quarterback now (we hope) and have the running backs and skill guys. If we can get the talent on the offensive and defensive lines in these next two recruiting classes, we’ll be fine. Georgia’s got a ton of talent, but Mullen is working to keep the gap from widening and next year should set up for Florida to begin to close the talent gap back up.
Both teams are going to be set to be the rightfully dominant teams in the East for the next several years.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:49 pm to atlgator
So, will it also be 100% due to cheating when/if Florida signs a top 5 class?
Just trying to figure out the rules...
Just trying to figure out the rules...
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:03 pm to atlgator
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Yeah can't believe Georgia players are going to Georgia. Obviously paying them
You’re very naive or in denial.
Georgia has always been a powerhouse recruiter with rich-in state talent while having no rivals in the same zone. Georgia has always recruited well, but the problem is that we're starting to see some really bizarre anomalies.
1. Michel and Chubb were both NFL ready last year, but they both decided to come back for their senior year.
2. They get the #1 QB who is basically going to be waiting behind a Freshman for several years, only getting package looks at best. His best case scenario is Fromm gets hurt and Eason transfers -- basically nothing physically within his power. He'll wait a minimum of two years before he's the ''starter'' should Fromm remain healthy.
3. They get the #1 and #3 RB when they already have 3 Freshmen sharing touches this year -- so their best case scenario is that they're basically fighting over 4th string. Herrien and Hollyfield will be Juniors next year, Swift will be a Sophomore.
The thing is about mentioning the other teams like the 2010 Florida class and Alabama -- both of those coaches had won National Championships and were proven to put players in the NFL, so it makes sense.
I'm not going to say Georgia is paying their players, but I will say that it has been highly suspicious.
Nothing beyond that. It wouldn't shock me if they weren't paying their players, but it also wouldn't shock me if they were.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:17 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
So much of this is wrong and uninformed.
1. Chubb and Michel both had poor seasons by their standards last year. They are best friends. They recognized potential for a great year and a great close to their Georgia careers and so they came back. Oh by the way, they both massively improved their draft stock and their chance taken will result in a larger pay day.
2. A Georgia kid who grew up a fan of Georgia. He brings a skill set not currently on our roster. Once he decommitted from penn state, he wanted to go to Georgia, but considered other places due to faster paths to playing time. Ultimately, he made the decision to stay home and play with his friends and be a part of what many recruits will be a historic time for the program.
3. Georgia recruits elite running backs. It is our thing. Also, we have one freshman, Swift, not three. Oddly enough, swift has worked his way into significant playing time this season even with two seniors ahead of him on the depth chart. Maybe White and Cook think they can do the same thing.
It is really hilarious to watch rival fans construct elaborate narratives about how we are cheating so brazenly it would make Ole Miss blush.
We have a great school, great campus, and top of the line facilities. We are the flagship school in a talent rich state with no notable instate competition. We have the premier recruiter in the country as head coach, surrounded by a staff that was assembled specifically to recruit. In year two we won the SEC, winning the majority of games by blowout, and are in the playoffs with as good a chance to win a national title as anyone else.
It isn't naivety or denial. It's fear and excuses.
1. Chubb and Michel both had poor seasons by their standards last year. They are best friends. They recognized potential for a great year and a great close to their Georgia careers and so they came back. Oh by the way, they both massively improved their draft stock and their chance taken will result in a larger pay day.
2. A Georgia kid who grew up a fan of Georgia. He brings a skill set not currently on our roster. Once he decommitted from penn state, he wanted to go to Georgia, but considered other places due to faster paths to playing time. Ultimately, he made the decision to stay home and play with his friends and be a part of what many recruits will be a historic time for the program.
3. Georgia recruits elite running backs. It is our thing. Also, we have one freshman, Swift, not three. Oddly enough, swift has worked his way into significant playing time this season even with two seniors ahead of him on the depth chart. Maybe White and Cook think they can do the same thing.
It is really hilarious to watch rival fans construct elaborate narratives about how we are cheating so brazenly it would make Ole Miss blush.
We have a great school, great campus, and top of the line facilities. We are the flagship school in a talent rich state with no notable instate competition. We have the premier recruiter in the country as head coach, surrounded by a staff that was assembled specifically to recruit. In year two we won the SEC, winning the majority of games by blowout, and are in the playoffs with as good a chance to win a national title as anyone else.
It isn't naivety or denial. It's fear and excuses.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
A few general thoughts:
1) UGA is paying players. So is UF and every other competitive program. The volume may vary, but that's hard to know from the outside.
2) UGA is a very appealing place right now. SEC Champions, in the playoff, players getting national recognition, tons of momentum, building new facilities, etc. Those go along with the natural advantages UGA has with location and the like and the school's history of pumping out NFL players. Also, despite our upperclassmen, Kirby has shown a willingness to play freshmen if they're ready (Fromm, Swift, Thomas, Grant, Herring, Rice, LeCounte, and a ton of guys last year).
3) Kirby Smart has always been known as a popular guy and recruiting ace back to his days at Alabama, and he's the single most connected head or assistant college coach to high school football in Georgia because of his family's history. He also built his staff with recruiting as priority #1. He's young, as an added bonus.
4) Pro-style offense helps, as well as playing for an ex-NFL DC.
It's not surprising that UGA is getting players whether we're paying or not.
1) UGA is paying players. So is UF and every other competitive program. The volume may vary, but that's hard to know from the outside.
2) UGA is a very appealing place right now. SEC Champions, in the playoff, players getting national recognition, tons of momentum, building new facilities, etc. Those go along with the natural advantages UGA has with location and the like and the school's history of pumping out NFL players. Also, despite our upperclassmen, Kirby has shown a willingness to play freshmen if they're ready (Fromm, Swift, Thomas, Grant, Herring, Rice, LeCounte, and a ton of guys last year).
3) Kirby Smart has always been known as a popular guy and recruiting ace back to his days at Alabama, and he's the single most connected head or assistant college coach to high school football in Georgia because of his family's history. He also built his staff with recruiting as priority #1. He's young, as an added bonus.
4) Pro-style offense helps, as well as playing for an ex-NFL DC.
It's not surprising that UGA is getting players whether we're paying or not.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
It's funny that Richt would pull in 5th-10th ranked classes and nobody batted an eyelash. Also bama/UF/LSu would routintely pull in top 5 classes and nobody thought anything. The way bama has recruited the last 10 years, they are bringing in 5 stars every year that are going to have to wait behidn other 5 stars on the depth chart, but nobody says anything. Now UGA has a top class and it's unthinkable? Yeah ok.
-Did you see chubb's 2016 season (first back off injury)? It was subpar. He looks a lot better this year right? He knew he woudl only increase his draft standing by coming back. Same thing for Sony, he'd been a career backup with limited opportunities, so another year to prove himself could only help. Oh, and guess waht...both of them are going to get drafted higher this year than they would if they came out last year.
Same could be said about Fromm coming in behind eason, we all see how that played out. And Fields is a copmletley and totally differnet skillset than Fromm, it's not like he's going to ride pine for 3 yeras.
We have easily proven that if you're good at RB, you'll get touches. I mean swift came in this year behind sony and chubb and look how well he's done. We also got marshall/gurley and chubb/michel together, see how those worked out? Our top 2 RBs are leaving this year, is it that crazy we'd get 2 more this class? And you're kidding yourself if you don't think zamir/cook are better than holyfield and herrien, I'm quite sure those 2 weren't really a factor for an elite RB wanting to come here.
Yeah like swift was fighting for 4th string htis year right?
Yet you ignore your earlier point that talented guys would still be coming in only to wait behind older talented guys. You also pretend that Kirby/Mel/Chaney/Pittman/etc haven't put guys in the NFL.
As for not having a national title, so what? If that was the only factor then only like 6 coaches would ever recruit 5 stars.
A top ~10 all time CFB program, arguably the 3rd best SEC program in history, in a talent rich state with great resources, good academics, and the best college town in the country pulling in a top class is not suspicious.
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1. Michel and Chubb were both NFL ready last year, but they both decided to come back for their senior year.
-Did you see chubb's 2016 season (first back off injury)? It was subpar. He looks a lot better this year right? He knew he woudl only increase his draft standing by coming back. Same thing for Sony, he'd been a career backup with limited opportunities, so another year to prove himself could only help. Oh, and guess waht...both of them are going to get drafted higher this year than they would if they came out last year.
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They get the #1 QB who is basically going to be waiting behind a Freshman for several years
Same could be said about Fromm coming in behind eason, we all see how that played out. And Fields is a copmletley and totally differnet skillset than Fromm, it's not like he's going to ride pine for 3 yeras.
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They get the #1 and #3 RB
We have easily proven that if you're good at RB, you'll get touches. I mean swift came in this year behind sony and chubb and look how well he's done. We also got marshall/gurley and chubb/michel together, see how those worked out? Our top 2 RBs are leaving this year, is it that crazy we'd get 2 more this class? And you're kidding yourself if you don't think zamir/cook are better than holyfield and herrien, I'm quite sure those 2 weren't really a factor for an elite RB wanting to come here.
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their best case scenario is that they're basically fighting over 4th string
Yeah like swift was fighting for 4th string htis year right?
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The thing is about mentioning the other teams like the 2010 Florida class and Alabama -- both of those coaches had won National Championships and were proven to put players in the NFL, so it makes sense.
Yet you ignore your earlier point that talented guys would still be coming in only to wait behind older talented guys. You also pretend that Kirby/Mel/Chaney/Pittman/etc haven't put guys in the NFL.
As for not having a national title, so what? If that was the only factor then only like 6 coaches would ever recruit 5 stars.
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I'm not going to say Georgia is paying their players, but I will say that it has been highly suspicious.
A top ~10 all time CFB program, arguably the 3rd best SEC program in history, in a talent rich state with great resources, good academics, and the best college town in the country pulling in a top class is not suspicious.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:29 pm to WG_Dawg
There seems to be some discomfort with the idea of the sleeping giant everyone made fun of waking up and wrecking shite.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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A top ~10 all time CFB program, arguably the 3rd best SEC program in history
Actually, they are ranked #14 by the AP (behind Auburn and 5th in the SEC). Just another example of UGA fans' delusional attitude about how great they are. Wake me up when you win a national championship more recently than Auburn. LINK
To all of the delusional UGA fans, enjoy this year and this run because eventually status quo will be returned.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:42 pm to ThaiTiger24
We can split hairs about subjective overall rankings by random entities, or we can look at some facts:
2nd most sec titles in sec history.
2nd most bowls in sec history.
2nd most sec wins in sec history.
3rd most overall wins in sec history.
2nd most sec titles in sec history.
2nd most bowls in sec history.
2nd most sec wins in sec history.
3rd most overall wins in sec history.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:42 pm to ThaiTiger24
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Actually, they are ranked #14 by the AP
Which would be ~10. Also that article doesn't take this year into account, so if you add in this year's SEC title and wins over teams ahead of us I'm sure those 8 "points" (however the frick they come up wtih points) will take us above Auburn.
It's not complicated really. Look at national titles, SEC titles, all time wins, all time win percentage, all time bowl victories, etc etc etc and UGA is consistently in the top 3 of the SEC right behind UT. The fact is UGA/UF/AU/LSU could all make some kind of case for being the 3rd best SEC program, but UGA damn sur ehas a better case than auburn does.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:44 pm to ThaiTiger24
Actually here is their arbitrary point system:
So the list you linked of "all time programs" is based on NOTHING more than where a team has finished in their own little poll. Titles of any kind aren't even factored
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Taking all the AP final rankings, CFN devised a scoring system giving every AP national champion 25 points, the No. 2 team 24, No. 3 23, and so on down to the bottom –
So the list you linked of "all time programs" is based on NOTHING more than where a team has finished in their own little poll. Titles of any kind aren't even factored
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:45 pm to WG_Dawg
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but UGA damn sur ehas a better case than auburn does
uh....ok. Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:47 pm to ThaiTiger24
ok then, make your case
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:51 pm to WG_Dawg
I just did. I showed you the AP rankings, which you just clearly ignored because it didn't support your argument.
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