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re: California Top 25 Recruits

Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:58 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:58 am to
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Saying we offered your list, so you are wrong


And you have no idea who they went after, so I'm not wrong. You asked for an example, and I gave you one. You can argue semantics all you want, but they offered those guys, and i would be willing to bet they went to Alabama for an official visit.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Jesus Christ. You want to accuse other people of not reading, but I literally posted this about Offord, ON THIS frickING PAGE NO LESS:

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He hates Saban. He wasn't even considering us until DeBoer took over. His recruitment isn't finished.


So, now you want to say Alabama has not lost any recruits they went after because nobody has signed? It may not be ovber, but Phaz clearly asked who Alabama had lost (The was from Alabama) that Alabama wanted.

Offord. Done. Or do you want to keep arguing?

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At which stage of that post does your mush brain comprehend that Offord didn't have a committable offer?

So, you finally admit that Alabama has lost an Alabama based player. That's all I said originally when you decided to butt in and insist I didn't know what I was talking about....and called me all kinds of names. You wanted to argue about committable offers and so on and so forth.

I really can't figure you out. Tell me clearly.

Has Alabama lost any recruits from the state of Alabama? Because that is what I was addressing.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:19 pm to
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Na'eem Offord Ranked #7 in the country

Going to OSU


Be careful. They are going to go all ballistic on you.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:19 pm to
You had Brian Smith that works for one of the AU sites saying on a podcast a while ago saying Deboer had dropped the ball with a lot of in-state prospects like Zion Grady, by not contacting them. He was implying Deboer was a lazy recruiter, turns out they were just way down the board.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Na'eem Offord did not visit Alabama when Nick Saban was our head coach. He committed to Ohio State on February 4, 2024. His first visit to Alabama was on June 7, 2024.

Zion Grady did not take an OV to Alabama

Jourdin Crawford did not take an OV to Alabama. He received his "offer" from Alabama on October 11, 2022.

But keep spewing nonsense.



1. Offord did officially visit Alabama, did he not?
2. Seems you missed one. let me see, who was it? Oh, yeah.Faulk.

So, it would appear as if Alabama missed on two. But keep spewing and defending nonsense. You still want to defend the statement that Alabama has not lost any recruits they wanted from the state of Alabama...to anyone?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:36 pm to
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He was implying Deboer was a lazy recruiter, turns out they were just way down the board.


Lazy recruiters do not have a class like DeBoer is bringing in. A supposed insider should know better than that. It's all about the clicks for some people. I think a lot of people just wanted DeBoer to be a poor recruiter..or lazy or whatever. I mean, Auburn had Harsin. He was a lazy recruiter.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Zion Grady did not take an OV to Alabama


And yet Alabama took a commitment from him.
From your link:
January 17, 2024: Decommit

Zion Grady decommits from Alabama Crimson Tide

Look. Maybe Alabama told him to look around. I don't know. We can go round and round about this forever, but it is what it is.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79439 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:52 pm to
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1. Offord did officially visit Alabama, did he not?


He committed to Ohio State in February.

DeBoer has clawed Alabama back into contention for him.

Has Offord signed anything yet?

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2. Seems you missed one. let me see, who was it? Oh, yeah.Faulk.


The guy with a brother on Auburn's football team?

Him?

Dang. We let an Auburn legacy take an OV and he's still committed to them.

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You still want to defend the statement that Alabama has not lost any recruits they wanted from the state of Alabama...to anyone?


Who. The. frick. Said. This?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79439 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:53 pm to
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And yet Alabama took a commitment from him.
From your link:
January 17, 2024: Decommit

Zion Grady decommits from Alabama Crimson Tide

Look. Maybe Alabama told him to look around. I don't know. We can go round and round about this forever, but it is what it is.


You are fricking retarded after all.

Nothing happened to the Alabama football program during the middle of January. Nothing at all. Business as usual all month long.

Goddamn, you're a fricking idiot.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:16 pm to
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You are fricking retarded after all.

Nothing happened to the Alabama football program during the middle of January. Nothing at all. Business as usual all month long.

Goddamn, you're a fricking idiot.


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Zion Grady decommits from Alabama Crimson Tide


And you keep insisting that Alabama has not lost any recruits from Alabama that they wanted.

Offard
Grady
Faulk

Except those three players.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:18 pm to
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He committed to Ohio State in February.

DeBoer has clawed Alabama back into contention for him.

Has Offord signed anything yet?


Again with the argument that Alabama has not lost anybody because nobody has signed any paperwork?

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The guy with a brother on Auburn's football team?

Him?

Dang. We let an Auburn legacy take an OV and he's still committed to them.

Did he, or did he not take an OV?

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You still want to defend the statement that Alabama has not lost any recruits they wanted from the state of Alabama...to anyone?



Who. The. frick. Said. This?

Phaz. And when I corrected him, you jumped in with this crap.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:24 pm to
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You still want to defend the statement that Alabama has not lost any recruits they wanted from the state of Alabama...to anyone?



Who. The. frick. Said. This?


This is the second time you have asked this..so here is the direct quote from Phaz:
Who has Alabama pursued instate have they lost to Freeze or anyone?

Ftr? It is the 8th post on the first page. Now, you can look it up for yourself and stop asking this. Here we are talking, and you apparently have no idea about what we are talking about.

Again. First page. 8th post.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79439 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:57 pm to
So your contention is that every kid a program offers "loses" them if they commit somewhere else?

By your "metric" Kirby Smart has lost 179 recruiting battles in the Class of 2025.

Holy shite, that's fricking terrible.

Right?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 3:18 pm to
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So your contention is that every kid a program offers "loses" them if they commit somewhere else?

No. Never said that. Did Alabama want Offard or Faulk?

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By your "metric" Kirby Smart has lost 179 recruiting battles in the Class of 2025.


Nope. But we have lost some that we wanted. I can admit it, why can't you?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:05 pm to
Tide Saint: Who. The. frick. Said. This?



I answered: This is the second time you have asked this..so here is the direct quote from Phaz:
Who has Alabama pursued instate have they lost to Freeze or anyone?

You're not going to at leas acknowledge this? You asked a question for the second time. I thought you would at least say something about it. This is what we have been discussing for the past 3 or 4 pages. Now you got the answer!
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79439 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:35 pm to
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Who has Alabama pursued instate have they lost to Freeze or anyone?

You're not going to at leas acknowledge this?


Alabama has had two different coaching staffs recruiting Class of 2025 prospects.

They run vastly different schemes, offensively and defensively, from one another.

Saban prioritized Zion Grady. DeBoer did not. Does that mean DeBoer lost him?

Saban offered Crawford in 2022 and he committed to Auburn in October of 2023. DeBoer was the head coach at Washington. How did DeBoer lose him exactly?

Saban prioritized prospects that fit his scheme and DeBoer has prioritized those that fit his. Saying Alabama lost prospects to Auburn that Saban offered and DeBoer never went after is ridiculous.

Is it really that hard for you two to comprehend?
Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:31 pm to
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Saban prioritized Zion Grady. DeBoer did not. Does that mean DeBoer lost him?


So...you do know the inner workings of Alabama recruiting. Who is prioritized and who is not. But...then...there is Offord. maybe...just maybe...and I am speculating here...Alabama lost a recruit that they wanted. Only one mind you, because we all know that Alabama couldn't possibly lose any recruit they truly wanted.

That's the story you want to go with?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22953 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 7:43 pm to
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Offord is the only one Deboer has recruited seriously


Offord's father despises our secondary coach. His untalented nephew rode the bench for Linguist at Buffalo. He's been very vocal about it.

Conversely, he loves the DB coach at OSU.

I'm sure DeBoer will keep recruiting him, but we don't stand much of a chance there.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 7:46 pm
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