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re: Wooddale High guidance counselor admits creating transcript for student-athlete
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:05 am to AMM AU9893
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:05 am to AMM AU9893
quote:You're right, and that even proves my point further. He hadn't even started school at the time. For some reason I looked at his visit date and not commitment date.
I think you mean signed. He committed in July
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:06 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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And Sports by Brooks will be kicking in soon
Not unless it's about Tom Albetar and his newly signed Alabama merchandise being funneled through his suit store in exchange for free suits.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:13 am to TTsTowel
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It would look better for Auburn if the grades had been change before the flip!
Well, considering that his Senior year was only half over before he commited to Auburn, I'd say that wouldn't make sense... Why change a player's grades before he has a chance to earn them the correct way?
I was just saying, the fact that Yeldon decided not to go to auburn, might have given auburn the motive to have someone change grades for Robinson. Obviously they would not change any grades before the kid had a chance to do it correctly. Although, at this time it would look better for auburn if the change was made before the Yeldon flip.
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 1:15 am
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:19 am to Tuscaloosa
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Tom Albetar
I'm not going to give my opinion on that guy because it might get me in trouble but I can say this because I've done some work for him: He was without a doubt not giving away anything, discounts or suits. He is a penny pincher if there ever was one.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:20 am to Tuscaloosa
Didn't read thread, so have no opinion on OP but...
another player lost that was recruited by Chizik. Does his numbers rival Tubbs at this point. I saw 41% attrition rate by Chizik of his recruited players, and that was before Rose and now Robinson.
Also, if someone would like to give a short summation of what is happening in this case(OP), please do.
another player lost that was recruited by Chizik. Does his numbers rival Tubbs at this point. I saw 41% attrition rate by Chizik of his recruited players, and that was before Rose and now Robinson.
Also, if someone would like to give a short summation of what is happening in this case(OP), please do.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:24 am to bona fide
quote:Do you not see a difference in the Tubs/Chizik classes?
another player lost that was recruited by Chizik. Does his numbers rival Tubbs at this point.
Count up how many players haven't made it in under Chizik when he's had a full cycle to recruit them (2009 doesn't count). Then go back and count up how many never made it to campus under Tubs in all his classes. Players have had difficulty staying here under Chizik, not qualifying.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:25 am to bona fide
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another player lost
Harry Adams
Da'Shaun Barnes
Dax Dellenbach
DeRon Furr
Raven Gray
Cameron Henderson
D'Antoine Hood
Reggie Hunt
Marcus Jemison
Derrick Lykes
Philip Pierre-Louis
Spencer Pybus
Jamarcus Savage
Brandon Smith
Eric Smith
Vance Smith
Freddie Smooth
Christian Thompson
Justin Albert
Barrett Trotter
Andre Wadley
Derek Winter
Dontae Aycock
Terrance Coleman
Robert Cooper?
Andre Harris
Josh Jackson
LaVoyd James
Izauea Lanier
Tyrik Rollinson
Reggie Taylor
Joel Bonomolo
Ed Christian
Jessel Curry
Michael Dyer
Antonio Goodwin
Shaun Kitchens
Dakota Mosley
Ladarious Phillips
Jeremy Richardson
Thomas O'Reilly
Aubrey Phillips
Mike McNeil
Jonathan Rose
Zeke Pike
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:28 am to Tuscaloosa
Why are you naming players that Chizik didn't even coach. I'm not even going to go into all of that. It'll be opening a terrible smelling can of worms.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:28 am to bona fide
quote:I'll start with Chizik's first full class, 2010. From that class until now, he's signed 77 prospects. Not including guys that have had career ending injuries (Chizik can't control that) 12 of them have left or been ineligible (including Robinson). That's 15%
another player lost that was recruited by Chizik. Does his numbers rival Tubbs at this point. I saw 41% attrition rate by Chizik of his recruited players, and that was before Rose and now Robinson.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:29 am to TTsTowel
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Players have had difficulty staying here under Chizik, not qualifying.
Just sounds funny considering the subject of the thread.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:29 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:None were recruited by Chizik and many didn't even play for Chizik. Good point bro
Harry Adams
Da'Shaun Barnes
Dax Dellenbach
DeRon Furr
Raven Gray
Cameron Henderson
D'Antoine Hood
Reggie Hunt
Marcus Jemison
Derrick Lykes
Philip Pierre-Louis
Spencer Pybus
Jamarcus Savage
Brandon Smith
Eric Smith
Vance Smith
Freddie Smooth
Christian Thompson
Justin Albert
Barrett Trotter
Andre Wadley
Derek Winter
Dontae Aycock
Terrance Coleman
Robert Cooper?
Andre Harris
Josh Jackson
LaVoyd James
Izauea Lanier
Tyrik Rollinson
Reggie Taylor
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:30 am to TTsTowel
Yes, I see the difference. I would think the Tubbs attrition is more reasonable. That is why I asked. Tubbs signed too many then some didn't make it to campus. I would be more concerned with losing all these guys since they actually made it to campus.
I forgot about Mack, is he definitely gone?
I forgot about Mack, is he definitely gone?
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:31 am to AMM AU9893
shite, there were a ton of those that never even made it to campus (Tubs recruiting). How could they have been coached by Chizik?
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:31 am to Tuscaloosa
Yep, that list sucks. Do you have one with the players that signed with Chizik?
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:33 am to bona fide
quote:He's still apart of the team, but he's having trouble mentally at this point. It's nothing injury related, and I hope the best for him. He went through a very pressing time.
I forgot about Mack, is he definitely gone?
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:34 am to AMM AU9893
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I'll start with Chizik's first full class, 2010. From that class until now, he's signed 77 prospects. Not including guys that have had career ending injuries (Chizik can't control that) 12 of them have left or been ineligible (including Robinson). That's 15%
The number I seen was including Chizik's first class and also included all attrition(medicals,etc)
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:36 am to bona fide
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Yep, that list sucks. Do you have one with the players that signed with Chizik?
Yeah, it's in my original post. He cut the list off after the 2009 signing class. There were 14 listed that were recruited by Chizik 2010-present. Also on the list that he edited are numerous players from the 2009 class - that Chizik didn't recruit, but he did sign.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:36 am to bona fide
quote:By my count, since his 2010 class, the 12 that have left are:
Yep, that list sucks. Do you have one with the players that signed with Chizik?
Jovon Robinson (gonna go ahead and count him)
Zeke Pike
Jonathan Rose
Jeremy Richardson
Roszell Gayden
Jessel Curry
Thomas O'Reilly
Joel Bonomolo
Mike Dyer
Antonio Goodwin
Shaun Kitchens
Dakota Mosley
Others that were unable to continue playing are:
Ed Christian
Ladarious Phillips
Jawara White
Potentially Eric Mack
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 1:39 am
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:36 am to bona fide
quote:A lot of those recruits were former Tubs recruits that Chizik decided to let stay. I really can't fault him for having a bad first class when it comes to attrition due to the circumstances.
The number I seen was including Chizik's first class and also included all attrition(medicals,etc)
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:37 am to Tuscaloosa
Joel Bonomolo
Ed Christian
Jessel Curry
Michael Dyer
Antonio Goodwin
Shaun Kitchens
Dakota Mosley
Ladarious Phillips
Jeremy Richardson
Thomas O'Reilly
Aubrey Phillips
Mike McNeil
Jonathan Rose
Zeke Pike
Jovon Robinson
That's 15, right?
Ed Christian
Jessel Curry
Michael Dyer
Antonio Goodwin
Shaun Kitchens
Dakota Mosley
Ladarious Phillips
Jeremy Richardson
Thomas O'Reilly
Aubrey Phillips
Mike McNeil
Jonathan Rose
Zeke Pike
Jovon Robinson
That's 15, right?
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