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With all this talk about 5 conferences?
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:22 pm
Does anyone think college football will move to 5 super conferences? Full blown playoff at least 8 teams?
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:24 pm to Butkus51
If Big 12, Big 10, Pac 12, and SEC all decide to expand to 16, the ACC will get pillaged and become irrelevant. There will only be 4 super-conferences if that day ever comes.
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:27 pm to Crimson G
Once one conference gets to sixteen teams the rest will follow. So to answer your question, yes, I beleive that the playoff system will move to a 12 team playoff. If we have 6 conferences then the first round of playoffs would be the CCG.
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:29 pm to Ole Colonel 27
SEC, Big12, Pac-12, B1G all with 16 teams (ACC falls to big east level). 8 team playoff with each super-conference getting their champion in and then 4 wild-card teams (will most likely come from the super-conferences with an occasional non super-conference team getting in)
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:37 pm to Butkus51
super-conferences won't happen unless it makes financial sense for each of the expanding conferences - which it obviously does not for the pac (there are no good candidates) or the big 12 (there are no appealing candidates if the ACC can't be pillaged)
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:37 pm to Col Reb is my mascot
This sounds like a very legitimate setup as well.
Posted on 7/19/13 at 2:40 pm to molsusports
Yep, a lot of people forget about diminishing returns. If bringing in more teams results in everyone's cut getting smaller, why do it?
Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:46 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Why do people think that the Big 12 would be a superconference over the ACC? I hate the ACC but they have more members and they have a bigger geographic footprint. It would also make more sense geographically for the Pac 12 to poach four teams from the Big 12, the SEC and BIG to take two each, and the ACC to take whatever is leftover.
Personally I want UNC and Virginia Tech for the SEC.
The biggest question is whether or not ND joins a conference. If they do, they join the BIG, which then adds one more team to get to 16. Then the SEC follows suit, followed by the other conferences.
If the four super conferences are the Pac 12, BIG, SEC and Big 12, the Pac 12 would have to find four random western teams to add and the Big 12 would go from the plains over SEC and BIG territory to the coast. This might work for the big 12 if there was a east/west concept, but 9/10 teams are in the west with only WV in the east. They would have to kick out a team or just screw one over by putting it in the east.
I think it would look like one of these two options:
BIG- current 14 members + UVA + ND or Duke/UNC
SEC- current 14 members + Virginia Tech + UNC/NCST
Big 12- current 10 members + FSU + Miami + Clemson + leftover NC member (excluding WF) + Georgia Tech + 2nd NC member (including WF) or Pitt/Syracuse
Pac 12- current 12 members + Boise St. + BYU + San Diego St + UNLV
(Cool idea: Big 12 gives TCU to Pac 12 and then adds another ACC team for equal 8 team east/west divisions)
OR
SEC- Current 14 members + Oklahoma + Texas (if aTm allows it)
BIG- Current 14 members + OK ST + ND/Kansas
Pac 12- Current 12 members + TCU + KSU + 2/4 of Kansas/Baylor/Texas Tech/Iowa State
ACC- Current 14 + West Virginia + Cincy or Uconn
Personally I want UNC and Virginia Tech for the SEC.
The biggest question is whether or not ND joins a conference. If they do, they join the BIG, which then adds one more team to get to 16. Then the SEC follows suit, followed by the other conferences.
If the four super conferences are the Pac 12, BIG, SEC and Big 12, the Pac 12 would have to find four random western teams to add and the Big 12 would go from the plains over SEC and BIG territory to the coast. This might work for the big 12 if there was a east/west concept, but 9/10 teams are in the west with only WV in the east. They would have to kick out a team or just screw one over by putting it in the east.
I think it would look like one of these two options:
BIG- current 14 members + UVA + ND or Duke/UNC
SEC- current 14 members + Virginia Tech + UNC/NCST
Big 12- current 10 members + FSU + Miami + Clemson + leftover NC member (excluding WF) + Georgia Tech + 2nd NC member (including WF) or Pitt/Syracuse
Pac 12- current 12 members + Boise St. + BYU + San Diego St + UNLV
(Cool idea: Big 12 gives TCU to Pac 12 and then adds another ACC team for equal 8 team east/west divisions)
OR
SEC- Current 14 members + Oklahoma + Texas (if aTm allows it)
BIG- Current 14 members + OK ST + ND/Kansas
Pac 12- Current 12 members + TCU + KSU + 2/4 of Kansas/Baylor/Texas Tech/Iowa State
ACC- Current 14 + West Virginia + Cincy or Uconn
Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:48 pm to Butkus51
12 is about the maximum for a working conference, 14 is too many IMO and you can see the difficulties already, 16 would be ridiculous. You think you have scheduling headaches with 14, yeesh.
At 16 the divisions within a conference are more like conferences than anything else.
At 16 the divisions within a conference are more like conferences than anything else.
This post was edited on 7/19/13 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 7/19/13 at 4:51 pm to Butkus51
The Bilderbergs and Rothchilds are laughing, they already know it's all one conference, separated by superfluous descriptions.
Posted on 7/19/13 at 6:41 pm to deeprig9
Expanding would be difficult now, there are a limited number of teams that would actually add any value and the best ones, like UNC, are locked away by a Grant of Rights agreement.
Posted on 7/20/13 at 1:06 am to betweenthebara
4 Super Conferences. All National Championships won by any team before the 8 Team Playoff will be scrutinized in the future. I can hear it now, "Well those NC's Bama won were in the BCS era before the playoff so they really don't count."
Posted on 7/20/13 at 1:13 am to Lima Whiskey
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a Grant of Rights agreement.
keeping both the ACC and Big 12 pretty much intact for the next decade
Posted on 7/20/13 at 1:15 am to Butkus51
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Does anyone think college football will move to 5 super conferences?
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