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re: Will Muschamp was head coach in waiting at Texas. Would he have done well as UT HC?
Posted on 8/17/19 at 1:17 pm to Hook Em Horns
Posted on 8/17/19 at 1:17 pm to Hook Em Horns
Long time lurker and I can point out randy's writing anywhere. Why you on an sec board? Big12 not good enough?
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 1:34 pm to Atx78669
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Long time lurker and I can point out randy's writing anywhere.
You don't know your arse from a hole in the ground, boy.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 1:59 pm to Smart Post
Take your racist arse out here. Dont call me boy
Posted on 8/17/19 at 2:05 pm to Fairbanks
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Taggart repairing a broken FSU program? Lol. Fisher had great recruiting classes there.
Then why is it that St Jimbo had to beg, borrow, and plead to make bowl game his last season there? Fisher let FSU rot from the inside, and bailed out to College Station to start anew. Taggart may be a shitty coach, and probably is. But FSU was in bad shape when he got to Tallahassee.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 3:21 pm to RoyalAir
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You've proven you know dick all about your own program's coaching searches, so great job on being ignorant regarding everyone else's.
Huh?
Posted on 8/17/19 at 4:09 pm to RoyalAir
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Then why is it that St Jimbo had to beg, borrow, and plead to make bowl game his last season there? Fisher let FSU rot from the inside, and bailed out to College Station to start anew. Taggart may be a shitty coach, and probably is. But FSU was in bad shape when he got to Tallahassee.
Couldn't agree with you more.
BTW, it's never too late, at least not for another six days, to get your preseason prediction in for posterity's sake. LINK
You would be the only Gamecock fan with your prediction RoyalAir.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 5:25 pm to joshnorris14
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Johnny Football was all Horn, but Muschamp wanted him as safety.
Nope.
Manziel went to every camp he could for 2 years across Texas campuses & no one had him as QB take @ the D1 level. Mack Brown, Gary Patterson, Art Briles.. all had ATH/Non QB tag on him.
Sherman @ A&M offered late after his top targets fell thru & it was thanks to Tom Rossley from their staff. JFF was really small & his rep was already well known. It was a miracle he even made it at A&M, for all his shortcomings Sumlin did a masterful job identying Manziels talents and providing an opportunity for him to succeed in CS with little off the field fan fare compared to what we saw down the line.
In short cant put JFF on Muschamp & I'll restate what I posted earlier... Muschamp was the glue behind the last 2 great teams Texas had under Mack Brown.
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 5:33 pm to OldSchoolHorn
Tanner hiring Muschamp was a mega head scratcher.
Then, he gave him a raise and a contract extension to "lock him up."
Yeah, tons of fanbases clamoring for Muschump.
Then, he gave him a raise and a contract extension to "lock him up."
Yeah, tons of fanbases clamoring for Muschump.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 5:51 pm to General RL Bullard
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Tanner hiring Muschamp was a mega head scratcher.
Then, he gave him a raise and a contract extension to "lock him up."
Yeah, tons of fanbases clamoring for Muschump.
The extension I'll agree with, but hiring Muschamp I wouldn't consider a "head scratcher".
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:05 pm to General RL Bullard
He wasn't gonna get a chance anywhere else. A school like Scar was perfect for him to get another HC chance cause there's nothing to lose
Scar is usually so desperate for success that they will hire a coach who is way past their prime and about to retire, but they finally went a different route
Scar is usually so desperate for success that they will hire a coach who is way past their prime and about to retire, but they finally went a different route
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:06 pm to GetCocky11
Muschamp is a mediocre coach.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:07 pm to GetCocky11
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You laugh at this possibility but you must forget how hot of a name Muschamp was in 2008. Or maybe you were like 10 yrs old in 2008
Clemson didn't give a shite about college football 11 years ago.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:19 pm to GetCocky11
He was never head coach in waiting
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:24 pm to RoyalAir
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RoyalAir
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Pruitt's coaching ability notwithstanding, he was hired through an absolute shitshow of a coaching search that involved a botched hiring of Schiano, a fired AD mid-search, and got Dave Doeren(??!?),among others, an undeserved raise. By every available metric, UTk's coaching search was worse than USC's, and Pruitt was far lower down the list of candidates for that gig than Muschamp was for USC's. I don't think either coach is going to be successful at their respective jobs. You've proven you know dick all about your own program's coaching searches, so great job on being ignorant regarding everyone else's.
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Then why is it that St Jimbo had to beg, borrow, and plead to make bowl game his last season there? Fisher let FSU rot from the inside, and bailed out to College Station to start anew. Taggart may be a shitty coach, and probably is. But FSU was in bad shape when he got to Tallahassee.
You are killing it in this thread. Excellent posting.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:58 pm to OldSchoolHorn
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The extension I'll agree with, but hiring Muschamp I wouldn't consider a "head scratcher".
Why was hiring Muschamp not a head scratcher? He was fired a year earlier from the top program in the east for being a really bad head coach. Atleast hire a guy like Kiffin who was fired for struggling with a depleted roster on probation.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:16 pm to tjv305
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Why was hiring Muschamp not a head scratcher? He was fired a year earlier from the top program in the east for being a really bad head coach. Atleast hire a guy like Kiffin who was fired for struggling with a depleted roster on probation.
-He was the staff leader of Texas' last good years under Brown
-The Florida situation was a train wreck to walk into.. going back to Texas, there were a lot of people still very high on him.
-He has the SEC ties, knowledge & relationships
-It's SCAR for God's sake.. can you really have a "head scratcher" hire?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 4:30 am to scrooster
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You would be the only Gamecock fan with your prediction
Aight. Just dropped a 4-8 deuce in there.
*please* let me be wrong.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 4:38 am to scrooster
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Smart wanted the UGA job and we had no chance at him unless we had gone after him at the end of 2013, which we didn’t.
Lincoln Riley was basically the coach in waiting at Oklahoma. There was no chance there. Stoops let it be known that he was close to retiring and rumor has it that he had even flown to Columbia to speak with Spurrier a year prior about them both getting near the end of their coaching careers.
Willie Taggart got an interview strictly as part of an EO initiative. He wasn’t qualified and he would have been a terrible fit. Word is he also did not interview well. We dodged a bullet there
Yeah, as soon as UGA fired Richt, I knew Smart was their only play. They don't pull one trigger unless they know they have the other in the bag.
As for Riley, I didn't know he was as on deck at Oklahoma as you are saying. I thought he was a name outta left field when be interviewed, and was more than a little surprised that he got the Oklahoma job just a year later.
Taggart was a do-not-want. I was more willing to see a RichRod (shudder) situation than him. Just not enough track record.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:49 pm to scrooster
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Tanner didn’t settle for anything. I agree, at the time, I thought it was a bad hire but Tanner didn’t settle .... and everyone knows I am no fan of Ray’s as an AD.
I've gone back and forth with what I think of Muschamp over the past three years.
Hated the hire. Loved it after the first year. Now I'm really not sure.
The positive thing about him, is he doesn't mind or actually likes to recruit. And he seems to have a good idea of how a kid will project in college.
He also seems like he avoid signing the kind of kids who are a debacle waiting to happen, unlike some other schools (and I'm talking about crab legs and the like).
The kids he coaches are the better for having had him as a coach.
On the negative side, I'm not totally sold on him as a recruiter. It seems like he usually loses whenever he recruits a kid a big name program also wants. Xavier Thomas and KJ Henry to Clemson, Channing Tindall to Georgia, Murphy/Miles/Conley/Two different tight ends to Mack and UNC this year.
And apparently there is some real smoke about Burch going to Georgia. Come on, Burch's coach is a former USC QB, Muschamp's son plays there, Huntley signed with USC,...
If he can't win that battle, he isn't going to win any. Pickens is about the only really contested guy he won on.
And sure the programs he is going against are doing great right now. But Dabo found a way to win against equally big names on his way up.
At the end of the day, recruiters recruit.
And right now, we are ranked what, 7th or 8th in the SEC in terms of recruiting? Probably still top 20 nationally, but that doesn't help us much.
Then we have his actual coaching performance. After four years at Florida, and three here, he doesn't seem to now how to get his team up for a game.
Or adjust to what the other team is doing. Matt Campbell at Iowa State has collected a number of scalps in his career so far, with a roster Vandy would laugh at.
Maybe I'm too hard on him. Bentley... has the potential to create nightmares in any game he plays - and usually for us. He actually has the luck of the Irish, because I have seen him make so many questionable decisions that the defense hasn't exploited for touchdowns.
He has had craptastic games, but he has also been incredibly lucky in a lot of other games, including some where he had big stats.
Think another thing about it, is defense really doesn't matter as much as it used to (IMHO). I have a feeling it is going to be harder for defensive guys to get HC gigs going forward than offensive guys.
Anyway I wouldn't replace him yet. He does some good things, and we aren't going to have things like the Baylor scandal (or what Florida calls a quiet offseason).
Let him finish out five years, then think about where to go. Heck even at that point, you could do a lot worse.
Unless you have a Lincoln Riley or the mentioned Matt Campbell ready to go, it could be a lot worse.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:58 pm to scrooster
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In other words he has matured.
Boom is trending in that direction and for some reason, a lot of people don't like it. He's good for South Carolina I think.
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