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re: Will Brooks Melchior be man enough to recant his faux story?

Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:28 am to
Posted by CFBFAN1121
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:28 am to
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Talk about having to read slowly...


Nothing is weird about a student worker getting paid for completing his/her duties for an actual paid position. But, when you have students who are getting paid for 'real' jobs within the AD, and are part of the group that volunteers with recruiting HS athletes...

In those instances, do you not agree that it could be very easy for the school to hide payments to the student for the 'work' they did in helping to land a recruit, by paying them for work they did in there regular paid position?

Do you not agree that if those who volunteered for a non-paying position, were also not allowed to work for the university in a paid capacity, then it would cut out any perceived improprieties?


OK, fine, you've made your point of how this is suspicious.

Now how 'suspicious' is it for LSU to have a person like Lyles on their payroll now that we know he doesn't provide legitimate info for his recruiting 'fees'?
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:28 am to
well....... I plead the fif
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:28 am to
Posted by townhallsavoy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Talk about having to read slowly...


Nothing is weird about a student worker getting paid for completing his/her duties for an actual paid position. But, when you have students who are getting paid for 'real' jobs within the AD, and are part of the group that volunteers with recruiting HS athletes...

In those instances, do you not agree that it could be very easy for the school to hide payments to the student for the 'work' they did in helping to land a recruit, by paying them for work they did in there regular paid position?

Do you not agree that if those who volunteered for a non-paying position, were also not allowed to work for the university in a paid capacity, then it would cut out any perceived improprieties?


I worked in the athletic department at Auburn for a while.

Let me answer this succinctly for you -

Tigerettes and Tiger Hosts are not paid.

Some of them establish connections with people in the AD and are given jobs - W2s and everything - to do in the AD.

If you want to bitch about students being unfairly given paying jobs simply because they're a Tigerette, that's fine. I'm sure something is illegal with that.

But to implicate Auburn in some kind of horrendous recruiting practice with its Tigerettes/Tiger Hosts is ludicrous.

And Tigerettes/Tiger Hosts are encouraged to refrain from adding players/recruits on Facebook. But there's no rule against. You can't tell kids they can't be friends with other kids.
Posted by The ChizMan Cometh
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:29 am to
A few notes about these unusual payments..

They are paid in 2 week increments, and payday is always Friday.

The only gaps where it appears she went more than 2 weeks without getting paid all fall within areas such as spring break, Christmas, Thanksgiving, taking the summer off, ect.

If you notice between 4/1/11 and 4/29/11 there are no payments.. That's because AU probably holds a paycheck like most every other business does. Since she probably went on spring break during the end of March like most college kids, she would not have gotten a paycheck in the middle of April..

The 1000+ dollar paycheck on 4/29/11 is pretty easy to figure out.. Spring break is over, and plenty of work to catch up on means a few extra hours on your paycheck.

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell is so unusual about the pay structure.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:30 am to
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Seems to me that if you are going to 'volunteer' for an 'unpaid' position within the AD, then you shouldn't be allowed to have a paid position within the very same department


Where does it say they held jobs in the athletic department?

Oh, it doesn't. Follow your own advice...

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then you don't know specifically what they were being paid for.
This post was edited on 6/21/11 at 8:31 am
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:37 am to
All I know is this: this whole thing makes me glad I never had a daughter because I know I'd be wanting to kick some arse right about now if I did.

Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92046 posts
Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Now how 'suspicious' is it for LSU to have a person like Lyles on their payroll now that we know he doesn't provide legitimate info for his recruiting 'fees'?



Yeah, it's fairly suspicious, and I think a lot of people are wondering what will come out of it. But, until something more comes out, it's a non-story.

At some point LSU will have to prove to the NCAA (if they ask) that they made payments to Lyles based on what they thought was credible recruiting information. Remember, just because Lyles sold shite, that doesn't mean that we're the one's left with the stink. If LSU paid Lyles under the auspices of getting credible information, then LSU did nothing wrong.

Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92046 posts
Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:47 am to
quote:


If you want to bitch about students being unfairly given paying jobs simply because they're a Tigerette, that's fine. I'm sure something is illegal with that.



I'm not bitching about anything - you may want to re-read my posts in this thread.


quote:


But to implicate Auburn in some kind of horrendous recruiting practice with its Tigerettes/Tiger Hosts is ludicrous.



Again, I did not. I was simply pointing out to the OP that the perception could be there...much like you said here:

quote:

If you want to bitch about students being unfairly given paying jobs simply because they're a Tigerette, that's fine. I'm sure something is illegal with that.



quote:

You can't tell kids they can't be friends with other kids.



What? Of course you can, especially if they are working for the AD...paid or not.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Where does it say they held jobs in the athletic department?



Ummm...the OP said that, not me.

So.....




Posted by townhallsavoy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Again, I did not. I was simply pointing out to the OP that the perception could be there...much like you said here:


Perception is irrelevant. The students getting paid are being paid legally for legal services they are doing for the AD.

I could write an article about how LSU football players have cars and provide pictures and specific names and then list the bylaws of the NCAA rulebook. You know as well as I do that a lot of idiots out there would suddenly have the "perception" that LSU is doing something - somewhere - illegal in terms of providing cars to LSU football players.

It would be a silly article with nothing to worry about, and you'd feel like you're wasting your time defending it.

That's exactly what this is. A nonissue that's being turned into something ugly by a perv photographer who is screaming for attention.

And actually, you can't. You can't stop people from having social interactions with other people.

It's why the Colorado/Tennessee hostess scandals were very precarious for the NCAA. They have to prove without a shadow of a doubt that any kind of sexual/social services are being provided as a "benefit."

If a Tigerette and a high school recruit that signs with Auburn hit it off on his official visit, they can date and screw and marry and have babies all they want, and the NCAA can't do anything about it.

Trust me. My E-cred is valid.
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:58 am to
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Dude, this isn't rocket science. It's no wonder people blindly believe anything they see on the net. They can't think for themselves

It's a shame I have to break this down to you. Read slowly. Just because there's a document showing a person getting paid on certain dates, doesn't mean that person was being paid specifically to be a Tigerrette.




exactly...thank you for admitting it...they were being paid to funnel money to recruits. Its exactly what all of us thought.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 8:59 am to
That makes some sense, but is it normal for payroll to just shut down during period when classes aren't held? I once worked for a university while in school and still received a paycheck when the school was "closed" for holidays and such.

And even if a business holds a paycheck, don't they still process the check on payday? Not really challenging your reasoning, just have never encountered a situation where a paycheck wasn't processed when there was work performed.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 9:01 am to
quote:

OK, fine, you've made your point of how this is suspicious.

Now how 'suspicious' is it for LSU to have a person like Lyles on their payroll now that we know he doesn't provide legitimate info for his recruiting 'fees'?


I'm pretty sure NO SCHOOL in the SEC wants to get in a pissing match over paying these 7 on 7 guys. NO ONE.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 9:01 am to
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TigersOfGeauxld
Where on that finacial report does it show Tigerette as being the reason for the wages?
Posted by azcatiger
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 9:03 am to
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 6/21/11 at 9:06 am to
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Where on that finacial report does it show Tigerette as being the reason for the wages?


Actually, it should be pretty easy to determine what these ladies are doing for that money.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38477 posts
Posted on 6/21/11 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I'm not bitching about anything - you may want to re-read my posts in this thread.


Passive-aggressive x1000.

"I'm not SAYIN'... I'm just SAYIN'"

Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/21/11 at 9:09 am to
quote:


Perception is irrelevant. The students getting paid are being paid legally for legal services they are doing for the AD.



It's irrelevant if there's nothing wrong going on. If they are getting paid for that, then great. Good for AU!

quote:

I could write an article about how LSU football players have cars and provide pictures and specific names and then list the bylaws of the NCAA rulebook. You know as well as I do that a lot of idiots out there would suddenly have the "perception" that LSU is doing something - somewhere - illegal in terms of providing cars to LSU football players.



Well, it's a little different than that...


quote:

And actually, you can't. You can't stop people from having social interactions with other people.


Actually, you can.


quote:

If a Tigerette and a high school recruit that signs with Auburn hit it off on his official visit, they can date and screw and marry and have babies all they want, and the NCAA can't do anything about it.



What about a paid employee in the athletic department? See, you're getting hung-up on the Tigerette part. I agree that the Tigerettes can do as they please, but if they are also paid employees of the University...then no.


quote:

Trust me. My E-cred is valid.



Ohhhhhhh, in that case....
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 6/21/11 at 9:12 am to
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What about a paid employee in the athletic department? See, you're getting hung-up on the Tigerette part. I agree that the Tigerettes can do as they please, but if they are also paid employees of the University...then no.


I think this is what's getting lost in all the titty-baby bullshite in this thread. If these girls are university employees and they as so much as buy a kid a fricking coke it's an NCAA violation. Much like the chick renting the car for Harris at Oregon.
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