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Why pre-season and early season rankings matter.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:25 pm
It's a gauge of what a team is perceived to be at that moment in time. Pre season is very debatable, but it matters bc the dynamics of a team change with significant losses.
I rarely go to the tiger rant.... Mostly in content just to lurk here. But I've been interested in the Les Miles sagaand been reading threads there. Poster after poster has mentioned how this team changed aafter the Bama game.
Was LSU truly the #2 team in the nation? Maybe not. But I have little doubt but that they would have jumped to #1 had they beaten Bama. They would be playing with purpose and probably not lost 2 more games as well.
A loss can be devastating. In rare teams it inspires (2008 Florida and 2011 Bama). But to simply say LSU is not truly a top 25 team is wrong.
Same for lots of ranked teams that lose their way after devastating losses. The effect lingers.
IMO that shouldn't diminish the accomplishments of beating top 10 teams who simply lose inspiration in the aftermath.
Whether this mean Les isn't a good leader or not, I can't say? History says he's a damn good coach.
I rarely go to the tiger rant.... Mostly in content just to lurk here. But I've been interested in the Les Miles sagaand been reading threads there. Poster after poster has mentioned how this team changed aafter the Bama game.
Was LSU truly the #2 team in the nation? Maybe not. But I have little doubt but that they would have jumped to #1 had they beaten Bama. They would be playing with purpose and probably not lost 2 more games as well.
A loss can be devastating. In rare teams it inspires (2008 Florida and 2011 Bama). But to simply say LSU is not truly a top 25 team is wrong.
Same for lots of ranked teams that lose their way after devastating losses. The effect lingers.
IMO that shouldn't diminish the accomplishments of beating top 10 teams who simply lose inspiration in the aftermath.
Whether this mean Les isn't a good leader or not, I can't say? History says he's a damn good coach.
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:27 pm to proudertider
LSU wasn't ranked #2 in pre-season nor early season.
Pre-season rankings are pure bias and pure stupidity. Anything AP related is horseshite.
Pre-season rankings are pure bias and pure stupidity. Anything AP related is horseshite.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:27 pm to proudertider
Is this thread really needed?
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:34 pm to skirpnasty
I just think it's unfair for Les and many other coaches to be judged so harshly on how their teams move forward after devastating losses.
I think LSU is physically a legit top 10 team. They are lacking mental toughness it appears.
That does speak to coaching, but preparing 19 and 20 year olds to bounce back from such losses is damn near impossible.
I think LSU is physically a legit top 10 team. They are lacking mental toughness it appears.
That does speak to coaching, but preparing 19 and 20 year olds to bounce back from such losses is damn near impossible.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:34 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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Pre-season rankings are pure bias and pure stupidity.
Not purely, no. Yes, there's bias and lots of guessing, but there's at least some intel involved. Nobody was ranking us for an excellent reason -- we hadn't shown any reason for anyone to believe us to be good. They were ranking LSU, Bama, UGA, and so forth for another good reason -- all of them had significant talent returning, with coaches that, to some greater or lesser degree, had proven capable of leading teams to victory. Obviously these rankings are not perfect. Hell, they can be downright abysmal. But for every misfire, there's a decently accurate prediction as well. Bama and Ohio State proved the prognosticators right. Auburn and GT proved them wrong. It's only fair to acknowledge the hits if we're going to bitch about the misses.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 7:31 pm to proudertider
Preseason rankings establish the bias used for the rest.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 7:34 pm to proudertider
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Was LSU truly the #2 team in the nation? Maybe not. But I have little doubt but that they would have jumped to #1 had they beaten Bama. They would be playing with purpose and probably not lost 2 more games as well.
You're a tard. The real problem for LSU is that we now have 3 freshman on the OL, a freshman blocking TE, and a freshman FB. And the lack of development/recruiting would be on Miles...
And LSU likely won't finish in the top-25 for a second straight season. Pre-season media hype is a killer.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 7:52 pm to proudertider
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I think LSU is physically a legit top 10 team.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:33 pm to proudertider
I think he has a decent point. The pre-season polls set the expectations for the year. I think we started around #15 and picked 4th in the West? Then, we got to #2 and paying for a play off birth. That crash reinforced the narrative with miles.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:34 pm to proudertider
Gives us something to laugh at when only bama lives up to expectations
Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:38 pm to proudertider
Nobody really knew how good LSU was going to be . The preseason prediction was anywhere from 7-5 to 10-2 pending who you talked to.
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