re: Why Arkansas beat LSU last season

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Win pct. by decade since 1930

1930-1939 LSU ranks 22nd in win pct.
1940-1949 LSU ranks 31st in win pct.
1950-1959 LSU ranks 50th in win pct.
1960-1969 LSU ranks 12th in win pct.
1970-1979 LSU ranks 23rd in win pct.
1980-1989 LSU ranks 29th in win pct.
1990-1999 LSU ranks 59th in win pct.

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very telling that you're not putting Arkansas's breakdown too.

Don't worry, i am being much more fair to Arkansas than you're being to LSU.

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I'm taking a break for dinner right now and also It's just a lot of information to reference and cross reference. I have a few college football history books (ESPN's and USA Today's). I would like to break down the number of ranked teams played and where they were ranked when LSU/Arkansas played them as well as how those teams finished as a way to illustrate the difference in SOS, but that would take an extremely long time. I'm learning a lot though.

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tl;dgaf

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frick if you think that's too long you should just leave the thread now, it's about to get ridiculous.

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I would like to break down the number of ranked teams played and where they were ranked when LSU/Arkansas played them as well as how those teams finished as a way to illustrate the difference in SOS, but that would take an extremely long time.

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Yeah no shite, it's just another LSU/Arkansas flame fest. There's no way I'd put that kind of time into it.

I'll have to have a look if you do though, and match my data with your data, bounce it off a few Russian and ex German scientists to verify the information. Maybe even run it by Yoda, etc., etc.

You need to end the thread with something funny, or at least cool.





p.s. Arguments on the internet about whose program is better/stronger/corndoggier etc are pointless. It's all about the fart jokes.



ETA: End the thread with something funnier that that f@ggo+ bull

What's this thread all about?

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What's this thread all about?

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Long thread, too long to read. Something about Arkansas making LSU's arse quit last year. Probably upset our friends in purple and gold, who should be worrying about those midgets from Oregon.

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I'm taking a break for dinner right now

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GD, how long does it take to make and eat a tuna squish panini? We want the goods!!23.3!1!!!

IN THE BEGINNING




Early years (1893-1919):


LSU began play in 1893. Arkansas in 1894. These early years are pretty spotty. LSU went 10-0 in 1908, Arkansas went 7-0 in 1909. I think everyone can agree that there's not a whole lot of significance during this era. I'm not even going to bother breaking any of it down.


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1920-1929

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Although college football was beginning to develop, it was still dominated by the Ivies and the service academies. Alabama began making a little headway fro the south but again neither school accomplished anything in the 20's that it claims nor did either have more than 1 or 2 standout teams recordwise.



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1930-1939

LSU's Y.A. Tittle



The AP poll was established in 1936, LSU finished 2nd in the nation in that final poll while Arkansas finished a distant 18th. LSU followed that up with an 8th place finish in 1937 while Arkansas finished 16th. Neither team finished ranked in 38 or 39. LSU went to the Sugar Bowl 3 times (after the 35, 36 and 37 seasons). LSU went 68-27-7 to Arkansas'42-51-10. LSU and Arkansas also met 7 times during this era, with LSU winning all 7.



Advantage: LSU



1940-1949

LSU's Bernie Moore:


Arkansas again had a losing record for the decade, going 42-64-4 (although they did go to the Cotton Bowl in 1947) to LSU's 61-39-6. It wasn't really a banner decade for either program, but the fact that LSU had a winning margin and pulled down 2 top ten finishes to Arkansas' zero gives LSU a clear edge.




Advantage: LSU



1950-1959

LSU's Billy Cannon


Arkansas finally started to show signs of life in the 1950's, notching their first top ten finish in 1954. However, the Hogs yet again come in with a losing record, finishing 50-51-1. For LSU, it was a a roller coaster ride, the decade started out with a Sugar Bowl appearance (and loss to Bud Wilkinson's Oklahoma Sooners, but dropped off in subsequent years, leading to the dismissal of Gaynell Tinsley and the hiring of Paul Dietzel. In 1958, LSU went 10-0 and were unanimous National Champions. Billy Cannon won the Heisman trophy the following year though the Tigers fell just short of repeating, finishing 3rd in both the AP and UPI. LSU's record during the 50's was 55-38-6. As an aside, LSU and Arkansas met 4 times in the 50's, with LSU winning all 4.



Advantage: LSU





1960-1969

Arkansas' Frank Broyles



Arkansas finally began to see some real success in the 1960's, when Frank Broyles (hired in '58) began to change the culture of the program. The Hogs finished ranked in 8 of the decade's 10 years, including 7 top 10 finishes and 7 bowl games. Arkansas finished the decade 84-24-1, including the 1964 National Championship.

LSU wasn't far behind. The Tigers (under Dietzel and his successor Charlie McClendon) finished in the top 10 on 5 separate occasions, went to 8 bowl games (5 of which would be considered "BCS games" today) and compiled a record of 76-26-5. LSU won the only meeting in the 1966 Cotton Bowl, snapping Arkansas' 22 game winning streak.

Both programs were elite during the 60's, but Arkansas, on account of the '64 National Title get the edge.




Advantage: Arkansas





1970-1979

Arkansas' Lou Holtz



After the 60's both programs were still very good, but both also suffered a bit of a lull. For Arkansas, it was at the beginning of the decade. 24 losses from 1972 through 1975 lead to the end of the Broyles era. His successor, Lou Holtz, picked the program back up though. The Hogs finished with 6 top 25 finishes, including 4 top tens. Arkansas went 79-31-5 in the 70's.

LSU started the 70's out strong, but faded towards the end of the McLendon era just as Arkansas did with Broyles. LSU went 76-38-3 with 3 top 10 finishes and 7 bowl games.



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1980-1989

LSU's Bill Arsparger



Arkansas began to trail off a bit in the 80's, but there was consistency to LSU's chaos. The Hogs finished in the top 10 once and in the Top 25 six times, though did compile a good 85-33-2 record.

LSU was much more up and down, with higher highs and lower lows. The 70-41-4 record is a step behind Arkansas' but LSU went to more major bowls, had more top 10 finishes (albeit a slight 2-1 margin) and finished ranked as many times.




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1990-1999

The visual representation of the Curley Hallman era looks a lot like a black hole



We both sucked. Lets just move along.




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2000- present

LSU's Les Miles


I shouldn't need to post the stats.




Advantage: LSU