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Posted on 4/21/11 at 10:58 pm to blzr
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Harvey admitted to poisoning trees by himself
hbo4 are accusing others of paying them, and still won't say who.
hbo4 confessed their guilt in taking money. didn't chaz recently speak to the ncaa? are you sure nobody has said who? Both instances are confessions. Again, one is embarrassing to Bama, one to Auburn. Auburn fans believe one, but not the other. Surprise.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 10:59 pm to Alahunter
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there are only confessions in both cases and no evidence, as yet, provided to the public
you must have missed it where they said the exact poison he admitted to using was found in the trees soil. but that doesnt matter.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:01 pm to Alahunter
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are you sure nobody has said who?
I'm not, thats why I don't believe a word they say. plus they all have something against auburn. and as harvey says theirs just to much bama in him.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:01 pm to Alahunter
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Again, one is embarrassing to Bama, one to Auburn. Auburn fans believe one, but not the other. Surprise.
no, one is a personal confession to a crime he committed, the other are players trying to tattle on someone else. again, if you cant see the difference between the two, you are stupid.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:01 pm to auzach91
You must have missed that he gave a specific name of a chemical and what it does. Think there could be zero chance another crazy actually did it after his claim, since it can be bought at coop's by anyone? Have you ever bragged you did something you didn't? He coulda been full of shite and someone did it afterwards. Afterall, according to Auburn fans, confessions don't mean a thing. And since you still haven't shown evidence that he was the one that actually did it, then he's innocent.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:03 pm to Alahunter
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since it can be bought at coop's by anyone?
actually I thought they said that spike80 F shite whatever it's called, is pretty hard to get your hands on.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:04 pm to blzr
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I'm not, thats why I don't believe a word they say. plus they all have something against auburn. and as harvey says theirs just to much bama in him
I see. They have something against Au, so it isn't true. Harvey has something against Au, so it is true. Nice logic.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:04 pm to Dragon13
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Didn't the head of the horticulture department post on his blog the day after the call that he tested and found nothing?
Yes.
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Toomer’s Oaks are Fine(baum)- Just a Toilet Paper Overdose.
I have been watching all the traffic related to possible poisoning of Toomer’s oaks. I heard over the water cooler that someone called into the Paul Finebaum Show claiming they had poisoned the Toomer’s oaks with the herbicide Spike. I was very skeptical, but I knew I could quickly determine if this was true. First, never passing up a teachable moment let me do some explaining.
The herbicide in question is sold by the name “Spike”, spike_20P.jpg
but the active ingredient, the chemical compound that actually kills the plants, is called tebuthiuron. Tebuthiuron is very specific in its action–it essentially blocks photosynthesis from occurring. It is very specific to plants and is safe to humans.
With many herbicides, if one wants to tell if a plant has been purposely treated, one would take soil and leaf samples, extract the herbicide, and run it through some chemical analytical test to determine if the herbicide is present. This process can take weeks. But with tebuthiuron, since it specifically stops photosynthesis, a negative herbicide effect can be determined in a few minutes.
So I took my handy, dandy handheld chlorophyll fluorometer up to Toomer’s Corner, clamped it on a few leaves and checked photosynthesis. fluorpen.jpgEverything is fine. It has been two months since the alleged poisoning, and there should be a reduction in photosynthetic activity– and there is not. Just in case it occurred more recently, Auburn Horticulture has taken some soil and leaf samples for future analysis, if any damage ever appears. For now that is a moot point, the trees are fine, just a little beat up from all the toilet paper clean up. I will keep checking over the next few weeks just to make sure.
To anyone who has had the idea of poisoning Toomer’s oaks or killing your neighbor’s tree that is blocking your satellite reception–you can easily be caught. Not only can one quickly measure photosynthesis of the plant, but the herbicide will last up to a year in the soil surface and a little longer in the killed plant. It will be very easy to catch you.
Scott McElroy, PhD
Department of Agronomy and Soils
Twitter: @auburnturf
After he was proven wrong, he removed that post and posted this-
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Auburn Tree Poisoning is for Real
FIRST POINT: I posted on this blog in late January that I did not think the poisoning occurred. This was based on no negative photosynthesis readings and just my general feeling that no one could do such a thing. Let me say as clearly as I can, and as we all know now, I was wrong in my initial post. I have thus removed this initial post. From the information I have seen recently the trees have been poisoned and Auburn officials have taken steps to deal with this problem.
FURTHER COMMENTS: As bad as we hate to admit it, the poisoning of Toomer's Oaks is real. My initial tests looking at leaf photosynthesis gave me the initial impression a poisoning had not occurred. My initial test was wrong. Everyone knew the hard work of soil sampling had to done. And what did the soil samples reveal? A dose of tebuthiuron, commonly known as the herbicide "Spike". Worst case scenario the trees will die. Best case scenario the trees will be disfigured to the point they have to be removed. But I have spoken with some weed scientists across the country and they say there is no telling what will happen. So, everyone can continue to hold your breath. For now that is my official stance-- It is difficult to predict what will happen. We well just have to wait and see.
This is a terrible, disgusting act. Words cannot express the pain this person has brought upon the Auburn Family.
Kudos to Gary Keaver, Stephen Enloe, and other involved with the soil testing to determine that the poisoning occurred. Excellent Auburn people dedicated to this situation.
Scott McElroy, PhD
@auburnturf
@malherbologist
LINK
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:04 pm to Alahunter
quote:bro did we not establish a long time ago you are in fact Al from Alabama??? Why then is this being rehashed? You are "Harvey the Tree Poisoner" and you know it!!!
Alahunter
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:05 pm to Alahunter
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Think there could be zero chance another crazy actually did it after his claim
the fact that you even think that this could be a possibility tells me all i need to know.
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Have you ever bragged you did something you didn't
yes, but its not about a criminal act on a radio station.
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And since you still haven't shown evidence that he was the one that actually did it, then he's innocent.
HE admitted to it. HE said that HE was the one who committed the crime. This isnt some friend of his who called in and blamed it on him. he took personal responsibility.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:05 pm to auzach91
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no, one is a personal confession to a crime he committed, the other are players trying to tattle on someone else. again, if you cant see the difference between the two, you are stupid
They admitted they did wrong. You have said they refuse to say who. By definition, they confessed their sins without tattling.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:06 pm to blzr
I believe you have to get a permit for it
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:06 pm to blzr
quote:I believe that is correct and in fact AL(ahunter from Bama) even said the same if I recall when he confessed back in the day.
actually I thought they said that spike80 F shite whatever it's called, is pretty hard to get your hands on.
This post was edited on 4/21/11 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:07 pm to BamaChick
Seems the chief horticulturist could be star witness in Harvey's behalf. Saying it acts quickly and it wasn't there after his claim. Harvey could in fact claim someone did it after he bragged about doing it as a joke. He has one of Auburn's leading guys in his defense now.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:09 pm to auzach91
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HE admitted to it. HE said that HE was the one who committed the crime. This isnt some friend of his who called in and blamed it on him. he took personal responsibility.
huh. Kinda like the hbo4 admitted to it. Like the hbo4 said they took cash. Not like some current coaches denying it. They took personal responsibility.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:09 pm to Alahunter
i would keep arguing, but i gotta get some rest. got a doctors appt in the morning at 7 to get an upper gi endoscopy.
cant wait for the anesthesia
cant wait for the anesthesia
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:11 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I thought it was, then someone posted that it was available through local coops and farm warehouses without a permit.
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:11 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 4/21/11 at 11:11 pm to blzr
I very seriously doubt anyone went and did it after he claimed to have done it. I would bet cops kept a close eyes on those trees, looking for nut job copy cats after Harvey made his claims on the radio.
I base that on the fact that they contacted the Finebaum show the next day and had an open, ongoing investigation up until Harvey was arrested.
I base that on the fact that they contacted the Finebaum show the next day and had an open, ongoing investigation up until Harvey was arrested.
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