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re: UGA is a sleeping giant like Clemson was 10 years ago
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Anyone who thinks LSU is on Alabama's level is a fool.
Maybe. But you are closer than anybody else in the country right now. (Not trying to argue with you...just giving lSU their due respect)
That said, a heckuva lot of LSU fans tend to act like two straight wins over Georgia is total domination....then act like they have dominated Alabama based off last years game.
quote:Hardly.
LSU's roster right now is just as close to being Mississippi State as Alabama.
LSU recruiting classes
2020-4th
2019-5th
2018-15th
2017-7th
I mean, I do get what you are saying. You lost a ton to the NFL. But....Mississippi State? I seriously doubt they have finished in the top 20 in the same time frame. Maybe top 25.
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Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:11 pm to DawgsLife
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Hardly.
LSU recruiting classes
2020-4th
2019-5th
2018-15th
2017-7th
I mean, I do get what you are saying. You lost a ton to the NFL. But....Mississippi State? I seriously doubt they have finished in the top 20 in the same time frame. Maybe top 25.
Just going off of 24/7 Sports roster rankings.
Also worth mentioning that most of our "talent" is freshmen and sophomores.
That 2017 class is basically non existent at LSU now.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:14 pm to DawgsLife
Alabama
12 5 stars
58 4 stars
13 3 stars
Grade 985.86
LSU
7 5 stars
35 4 stars
30 3 stars
Grade 875.07
Mississippi State
1 5 star
18 4 stars
64 3 stars
Grade 733.07
Little closer toward Alabama than State but not crazy.
12 5 stars
58 4 stars
13 3 stars
Grade 985.86
LSU
7 5 stars
35 4 stars
30 3 stars
Grade 875.07
Mississippi State
1 5 star
18 4 stars
64 3 stars
Grade 733.07
Little closer toward Alabama than State but not crazy.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:21 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Also worth mentioning that most of our "talent" is freshmen and sophomores.
I get that, and I realize y'all lost a lot. But just because they are mostly freshmen and sophomores does not make them less talented. I mean if you are going to downgrade LSU's talent because they are freshmen and sophomores, then you would have to do the same for Mississippi States, right?
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Little closer toward Alabama than State but not crazy.
I think maybe I got hung up on the Mississippi State angle and wasn't considering exactly what you had said. I will say that you proved your point.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:25 pm to djsdawg
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An argument could be made that our 2018 team was better than our 2017 team, which wouldnt have bode well for Clemson.
An argument amongst dawg fans maybe.
Nobody outside of the dawg fanbase thinks uga had a better team than Clemson in any of the last 3-4 years.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:27 pm to DawgsLife
Something like 7 players maybe, I believe like 3 or 4 are actually starters.
Stevens was a five star from that class and is a returning starter, Deculus is a returning starter, I think he was a four star.
The majority of the returnees were 3 stars I believe.
Stevens was a five star from that class and is a returning starter, Deculus is a returning starter, I think he was a four star.
The majority of the returnees were 3 stars I believe.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:27 pm to swampvol1
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Nobody outside of the dawg fanbase thinks uga had a better team than Clemson in any of the last 3-4 years.
Pretty sure we did in 2017. I mean, transitive property and all, we played Alabama closer, and beat a very good Oklahoma team.
Not meaning to get in the middle of your argument, but....well....I'm here now.
Just wanted to say that, and now I will bow out.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Something like 7 players maybe, I believe like 3 or 4 are actually starters.
Stevens was a five star from that class and is a returning starter, Deculus is a returning starter, I think he was a four star.
The majority of the returnees were 3 stars I believe.
Yeah. I made that post before I read your second one. I'll concede to your point.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:30 pm to DawgsLife
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I think maybe I got hung up on the Mississippi State angle and wasn't considering exactly what you had said. I will say that you proved your point.
No worries.
I guess most of our fans just didnt realize there was no possibility for us to "reload" this year.
Its hard to lose 17 starters and 34 players overall anyway but the 2018 class was just not that good. Ranked at like 15th and that includes players like Chase who we dont have.
We should be better in 2021 and 2022 if O can keep up his recruiting momentum.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I guess most of our fans just didnt realize there was no possibility for us to "reload" this year.
I have to admit that I didn't think yoou would go back to back, but I thought you were the second best team in the west and possibly the conference. I still think the talent is there to do much better. Pellini just seems to have dropped off the earth.
quote:No doubt. I have no doubt that LSU will be back much sooner than later, though.
Its hard to lose 17 starters and 34 players overall anyway but the 2018 class was just not that good. Ranked at like 15th and that includes players like Chase who we dont have.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:33 pm to DawgsLife
You may very well be right, DL.
I forgot about the year sandwiched between Watson and Lawrence.
I forgot about the year sandwiched between Watson and Lawrence.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:42 pm to AllDawgCK
quote:46-41
I doubt anyone can dominate bama
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:43 pm to swampvol1
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You may very well be right, DL.
I forgot about the year sandwiched between Watson and Lawrence.
Honestly? It would be an unproveable argument from either side. Both could make a fair argument. I hate comparing outcomes of games even if it is the same team, because there are so many variables that go on in a game. TLDR
Either one of our statements could be true, but impossible to prove.
UT has really turned a good corner. Good luck the rest of the year. There is still an arguable case for the Vols to win the east. It will be tough, but if Bama and Florida beat us, then UT beats Florida....
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:44 pm to s2
quote:
46-41
That's domination? 
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:49 pm to swampvol1
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Nobody outside of the dawg fanbase thinks uga had a better team than Clemson in any of the last 3-4 years.
Lots of clueless people out there. Heck, we got people ITT who think the Texas game is relevant towards such a discussion. Point is, Clemson was beatable in by UGA in 2017 and 2018. No telling how the ball bounces in a game between 2 great teams.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:56 pm to Arksulli
This is a fair assessment. It does not suck to be in the conversation in December-January for 3 consecutive years (and hopefully 4), but clearly we want to close the ultimate deal. It's harder now than it was even a decade ago. We're essentially the early natty style Bama when you could win it with superior defense/athletes and an average QB. You can't do it like that anymore.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 9:03 pm to djsdawg
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Lots of clueless people out there. Heck, we got people ITT who think the Texas game is relevant towards such a discussion. Point is, Clemson was beatable in by UGA in 2017 and 2018. No telling how the ball bounces in a game between 2 great teams.
You may have had the better team in 2017, but that's merely conjecture. Playing for 4 national titles (winning 2) in 5 years is not.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 9:11 pm to swampvol1
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You may have had the better team in 2017, but that's merely conjecture
Thats all you can go by. We could have beaten them in both seasons, and it wouldnt have been considered a crazy upset either time, and thats not even considering how we own Clemson head to head.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 9:17 pm to djsdawg
Beat bama, and I honestly think this will be settled at the end of the year.
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