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Trying to make sense of the BCS rankings

Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:02 am
Posted by King Crimson
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
1024 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:02 am
#10 Florida St. is a 7 point favorite to beat #6 Florida.
Am I the only one who sees the irrationality of this scenario?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22275 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:05 am to
Betting lines have nothing to do with rankings. They also have nothing to do with who Vegas thinks will win. All they're about is getting the same amount of money bet on each side.
Posted by AggieJohn06
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2011
467 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:06 am to
Because bookmakers in Vegas aren't retarded, I guess? I think if they were to make a poll it would reflect about the last 3 weeks, not the entire year.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:06 am to
quote:

#10 Florida St. is a 7 point favorite to beat #6 Florida.
Am I the only one who sees the irrationality of this scenario?


Vegas and the betting public is different than a bunch of lazy sports writers across the country that watch one game a week in their region, and the interns at a coaching staff that make the rankings?
Posted by paul02085
Shelby, Al (Lay Lake)
Member since Sep 2006
1385 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:07 am to
Somebody been watching Gators offense.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26813 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:10 am to
We so need a playoff this year.

There is no seperation at the top and the schedules were just unfair. LSU's schedule (played FOUR top-10) teams vs OSU or UGA. It's not even fair.
Posted by King Crimson
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
1024 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:12 am to
quote:

quote:
#10 Florida St. is a 7 point favorite to beat #6 Florida.
Am I the only one who sees the irrationality of this scenario?


quote:

Vegas and the betting public is different than a bunch of lazy sports writers across the country that watch one game a week in their region, and the interns at a coaching staff that make the rankings?


I agree. So, by this observation, would you agree that a Vegas odds maker is far more likely to correctly assess comparative team strength than the BCS system?
Posted by paul02085
Shelby, Al (Lay Lake)
Member since Sep 2006
1385 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:13 am to
PS- i hope Gators curb stomp them.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32813 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:15 am to
If we had a playoff this year, LSU wouldn't be in it anyways
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I agree. So, by this observation, would you agree that a Vegas odds maker is far more likely to correctly assess comparative team strength than the BCS system?


Of course. The opening line is often more indicative of the actual result as well, unless the line is shifting by some of the higher end gamblers that find lines they know they can exploit. The thing about making even bets is half true. They have juice as an insurance policy, but unbalanced betting on an accurate line always plays in Vegas' favor.

The BCS is also a blend of accomplishment, not ability. Vegas would be favored to lose in Vegas on a neutral field against every team on an even field until they made their way down to A&M. And Johnny Football would arse rape them. So even Vegas isn't completely accurate.
Posted by tigerfan4120
Member since Dec 2003
3264 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:20 am to
Depends how many teams you goober. We'd be in an 8 team playoff without question. And we very well might be in a 4 team playoff by the end of the season, especially once UF loses this Saturday and drops like a brick into the outback bowl.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:21 am to
Last I checked, there is no plan for an eight team playoff.
Posted by GaDog85
The Cut
Member since Jan 2010
1209 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:24 am to
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There is no seperation at the top and the schedules were just unfair. LSU's schedule (played FOUR top-10) teams vs OSU or UGA. It's not even fair.


Every team has had hard schedules over the last decade. It rotates and you sound like a crybaby.
Posted by tigerfan4120
Member since Dec 2003
3264 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:25 am to
No way reeeeaaallly? Mind blown
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:27 am to
Then shut up.
Posted by Legend13
Driving a titleist
Member since Nov 2011
4079 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Vegas and the betting public is different than a bunch of lazy sports writers across the country that watch one game a week in their region, and the interns at a coaching staff that make the rankings?

That's why I watch all the games from 11:00am to the last Pac12 game of the night and if I'm at a Bama home game then I dvr the games I want to go back and watch on Sunday or throughout the week.

After watching all the games and scores you have the eye test and nothing beats the eye test.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:37 am to
Florida has beaten some good teams this year & not played so well against chump teams. But FSU has really beaten no one of note, except Clemson. UF should win this game.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32657 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:43 am to


Stop bitching
quote:

It's not even fair.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:44 am to
Man, Florida winning is going to totally fuuuccckkk the loser of the SECCG
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32657 posts
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:47 am to
quote:

The BCS is also a blend of accomplishment, not ability. Vegas would be favored to lose in Vegas on a neutral field against every team on an even field until they made their way down to A&M. And Johnny Football would arse rape them. So even Vegas isn't completely accurate.


Wut?
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