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re: Top 10 things the Crooms fluff piece didnt include

Posted on 9/26/12 at 11:57 am to
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 11:57 am to
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You were an average to below average team before Saban built your program.


I know, another good coach would have built LSU's program with all the talent in Louisiana. LSU was bound to find a good coach, they have the money, nice stadium, etc. I mean after all LSU got him from Michigan State. It's not like they stole him from USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Notre dame, Florida, OU etc.

Actually LSU also helped Nick. Nick chose a program with GREAT in state talent, got PAID by LSU, paid in the NFL, getting PAID by Bama. Win win situation for both parties.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 11:57 am to
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What did Nick do at Michigan State???


Well, since you asked...

He took a team that had just been slammed with probation and hadn't had a winning season since 1990, beat a #1 ranked Ohio State at the horseshoe, beat a highly ranked Notre Dame team, and in 1999 led Michigan to the best season they'd had since 1965 and their highest ranking since 1966 (ironically the same year that they would be half of the reason the '66 Bama team was robbed of a Championship).
Posted by CoonassBulldog
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:19 pm to
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What did Nick do at Michigan State



went 0-3 in bowl games and only won 6 games in 3 of his 5 seasons

He also got his arse beat like a drum in Miami
And he also lost to Crooms and ULM on his way to a 6-6 season in his first at Bama

Put Saban at State and he is no better than Mullen
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:20 pm to
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My post was to just put some context around the comment that Jackie won at State. I don't want the rant to romanticize those years without regard for what actually happened.


Well you have to look at more than the final overall record... Sherill in his prime years at MSU had some really great teams. His first few years were rough b/c he had to build the program. His last 3 seasons were bad due to NCAA probing and family issues-he was so occupied with other shite he lost the cohesion of the team.

You can't ignore the fact that from 96-2000 he had the winningest program in the West, including a 10 win season and a SEC West Title.

He was a good coach, but not the best State has ever had. The best would have been Mckeen in the 30's and 40's who took State to 2 Orange bowls and an undefeated season and SEC title. Mullen will end up being better than Sherill also imo.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:20 pm to
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I know, another good coach would have built LSU's program with all the talent in Louisiana. LSU was bound to find a good coach, they have the money, nice stadium, etc. I mean after all LSU got him from Michigan State.


You sound exactly like A&M fans. They've been waiting how long now for "imminent" success?
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:29 pm to
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Ya'll can fire whoever you want, I don't care. But your school looked a little shitty on the telecast, that is all



If that's what it took to get rid of one of the shittiest coaches in our conference's history, fine by me. Stop basing your opinion on the ESPN racial fluff piece.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:34 pm to
exactly- these people act like Crooms had to suffe so much during probation. Jackie left him with 2 top 20 recruiting classes and 6 future NFL players.

We lost some visits and such during probation- but 2 of those years Crooms didnt even use all the visits we were allowed anyway.

Crooms = Probation
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:38 pm to
I love how in this thread all the MSU fans, who had Crooms as their coach, are wrong and everyone else is right based on what they saw on the Croom fluff piece



With that...I'm out of this thread before I get mad and make a ban worthy comment. It's way too tempting.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:42 pm to
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Stop basing your opinion on the ESPN racial fluff piece.


I'm watching that later to see what everybody is talking about.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:43 pm to
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one of the shittiest coaches in our conference's history






you are a moron if you really think that
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 12:59 pm to
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one of the shittiest coaches in our conference's history


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you are a moron if you really think that




1. won 21 games in 5 seasons
2. Never had an offense break the top 100
3. Punted from Georgia 31 yard line on 4th and 2- after going for 4th and 1 from the Georgia 42 yd line
4. Lost to Tulane, UAB, Maine...
5, Falling asleep on recruiting visits

Yeahhhhh, he was spectacular.

Posted by Sir Yin Yang
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:00 pm to
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LSU is a mediocre SEC football program HISTORICALLY...

...that has spanked MSU in 19 of the last 20 meetings. Even Curley Hallman was 3-1 against MSU.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:05 pm to
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that has spanked MSU in 19 of the last 20 meetings. Even Curley Hallman was 3-1 against MSU.



so you base your success in your program off of playing State?

Good to know
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:06 pm to
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you are a moron if you really think that



The guy punted on fourth down to end the game against maine. He said "we didn't deserve to win" and said that maine was better than us. Yeah I'm an idiot.
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:09 pm to
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you are a moron if you really think that


you are a duck.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99972 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:09 pm to
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The guy punted on fourth down to end the game against maine. He said "we didn't deserve to win" and said that maine was better than us.



I remember that game. Me and a friend were dove hunting and listening to the game... got bored and poured all the shot out of a couple shotgun shells and did a 20 step turnaround to see who got hit by the plastic wad.

After the game told my friend he should have left the bb's in the shell. Also I think a punched a dent in my truck
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:16 pm to
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Beat Saban



Grind boi hasn't


When Croom beat Bama: 2006-2007, 12-11 (6-9 SEC), lost to ULM

When "Grind boi" failed to beat Bama: 2009-2011, 36-3 record with two National Championships, and one SEC Championship







This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Tusc
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:20 pm to
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The guy punted on fourth down to end the game against maine. He said "we didn't deserve to win" and said that maine was better than us. Yeah I'm an idiot.


When y'all post stuff that is so easy to find that is 100% inaccurate, it just makes you wonder what else is inaccurate by racist State fans in this thread.



Mississippi State at 0:15 ME MSST
1st and 10 at MSST 34 Omarr Conner (MSU) pass right side complete to Brandon Wright (MSU) for 20 yards. 9 7
1st and 10 at ME 46 Omarr Conner (MSU) pass incomplete across the middle.
2nd and 10 at ME 46 Black Bears timeout; 00:02 remaining 4th quarter
2nd and 10 at ME 46 Omarr Conner (MSU) pass incomplete across the middle.
3rd and 10 at ME 46 End of the 4th quarter.
End of the game.
DRIVE TOTALS: 3 plays, 20 yards

https://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=242620344&period=4
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:30 pm to
Must ignore troll

Omarr Conner is the best example of why Croom was terrible.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 1:32 pm to
Crooms...nice person but awful coach. I dont care about color....suckiness has no color. Lose to Maine?
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