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re: Thuga vs Clampsin 2013
Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:32 pm to lowspark12
Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:32 pm to lowspark12
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I think this game will be a lot like UGA's opener against Ok State a few years ago... they'll play alright but eventually fall to the better team.
Many many differences here. Allow me:
-We will be going like an hour drive away to clemson, rather than flying into the despair that is america's heartland. Not near as much of a time issue
-We have a major historical rivalry with clemson. OSU was just some new team that we already beat 2 years ago that was still seen as a new guy on the block. UGA/Clemson has major roots
-We were breaking in a new QB after Stafford left. Next year we're returning what could end up being one of the most prolific passers in NCAA history.
-In 09 we had zero running game and a few questions on the OL. Richard Samuel was our RB for crying out loud. Next year we have all 5 OL starters returning and Gurshall.
-People look at that game and see we lost 24-10 and think we didn't have a chance, but that game did a 180 a complete horse shite call by the officials. It was only a one score game (17-10) in the 4th quarter. OSU was driving and they called a completely and utterly bogus PF call on Reshad Jones that put them in great field position where they would go on to ice it. Without that call, when we get the ball back who knows what happens.
Seriously, awful call
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:34 pm to AA7
quote:One can only hope.
Maybe the stadium will somehow spontaneously combust.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:38 pm to WG_Dawg
Thank you for linking that video and reminding how bad that call was. It still makes me angry to this day
Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:50 pm to scrooster
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South Carolina kept pressure on Boyd from start to finish. Plus we played press-man against their WRs and jammed them at the line of scrimmage all afternoon.
South Carolina absolutely put pressure on Boyd all game long, they were relentless. At the same time, so was LSU's DL.
One of the main difference in the two games was your second point which is actually incorrect. South Carolina very rarely pressed Clemson's WRs and was actually very respectful of Nuke/Sammy and Company.
To this day I have no idea why Morris didn't run more screens and quick hitches to Sammy/Nuke in that game like he did against LSU. I'm not saying the game would be different as Clemson couldn't stop South Carolina in the second half, but it might've been closer.
If there's one thing I'll say as a gripe against Morris it's that he has lacked patience at times when his teams get down or when he is facing an elite DL. If we see the same Morris we saw against LSU it will be huge. In previous games when he's gotten down he's tried too many big plays. Also, when he feels he's playing an elite defense that will make it hard to sustain long, numerous play drives he's gone for the big play too often instead of taking what the defense gives him.
South Carolina was giving Clemson 5 yard hitches all day. Instead Morris tried to hit them with a hundred 5/7-step drops. It played right into their coverage and right into Clowney and Taylor's hands. It was moronic, period. He has to do a better job of taking what the defense gives him, which he did against LSU.
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Dabo actually went out on the recruiting trail and was telling recruits he plays a "basically SEC schedule" and beat Auburn and LSU this past year
People say all types of things on the recruiting trail. Clemson played 3 SEC schools and FSU, another one of the borderline psuedo-SEC schools. It's not that ridiculous of a claim, I've heard much worse.
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Their fans are still calling in radio shows talking about how they could have won the SEC West if they had played in the SEC.
Well this is clearly a boldfaced lie. Not a single Clemson fan thinks Clemson could win the SEC West, literally not one. Every Clemson fan on the planet was terrified of playing Texas A&M in a bowl game and obviously we wouldn't want any part of Alabama let alone South Carolina. We beat LSU maybe 6 out of 10 times if not 50-50.
No Clemson fan ever said that, you're just flaming.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:54 pm to CockRocket
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But, you gotta hand it to Clemson, they really did play a good game and Tahj played out of his mind.
If Clemson gets the Tahj that played against LSU next year they will be extremely difficult to beat. He was simply a warrior and put up one of the best bowl performances in years.
In the past if you hit Boyd early he could start seeing ghosts. He's played well in games before, but if you hit him once or twice he'll start getting happy feet and has been pretty awful in some big games.
Against LSU he was the exact opposite. He stood in there, took the hits (and he got slayed on every play), and delivered every single time. It was amazing. If that happens again, look out.
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USC played one of the toughest schedules in the country this year in some of the toughest environments in college football. Going up to Clemson who feasted on weak ACC opponents wasn't very intimidating. Again, one of the bigger factors in the two games was that we just cared more. Playing in one of the fiercest rivalries in the country for the last game of the season is different than playing in a scrub bowl (for LSU).
Yea South Carolina's team has an extreme amount of confidence against Clemson at this point. Going in to Death Valley for them isn't very intimidating at all for them. It's been a while since Georgia played there, no player on their team has been there, and as such there's a little more of an unknown factor so I expect it to be shocking to them that it actually is a difficult place to play.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:58 pm to scrooster
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South Carolina ran the ball, and converted when needed. But the reason South Carolina beat Clemson so handedly this past season was Dylan Thompson throwing the ball around ... and Murray should experience similar success threw the air (sic: and pun intended).
Clemson was actually pretty stout against South Carolina's running backs. The difference not only was Thompson's throwing but also his mobility. Clemson has struggled for ages against mobile QBs and the South Carolina game was another example of this. Thompson stole so many cheap first downs and was able to pickup so many yards with his feet. It was a true difference in the game.
If there's one thing Clemson has going for it in this game it's that they typically matchup better with pro-style offenses. Not saying in any way Georgia's offense is like LSU's, but Clemson has struggled against guys like EJ Manuel from FSU or Thompson from South Carolina. Atleast Murray won't be killing us as much with his legs. He's obviously the far superior passer so it probably evens out.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 4:01 pm to CockInYourEar
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UGA will have lost too many starters or key 2 Deep guys and clemsux was terrible at efense last year and they lost most of their DB's for this year.
I expect Clemson's defense to be significantly better next year. They return everyone in the front 7 outside of Goodman (who was awful in every game except for LSU) and both CBs. They also get the 3rd CB back from injury, and their best CB was out against South Carolina and that really hurt.
The starting safeties both leave, but they were both attrocious. Travis Blanks will slide over from nickel and he was basically a starter last year as a freshman so that'll be pretty seamless. Think of the honeybadger, he was technically a nickel back but he played every snap. This is Blanks (not that caliber of player but just the distinction as not really being a starter). He now slides to his natural position of free safety and should be a huge upgrade.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:50 pm to WG_Dawg
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Many many differences here. Allow me:
-We will be going like an hour drive away to clemson, rather than flying into the despair that is america's heartland. Not near as much of a time issue
-We have a major historical rivalry with clemson. OSU was just some new team that we already beat 2 years ago that was still seen as a new guy on the block. UGA/Clemson has major roots
-We were breaking in a new QB after Stafford left. Next year we're returning what could end up being one of the most prolific passers in NCAA history.
-In 09 we had zero running game and a few questions on the OL. Richard Samuel was our RB for crying out loud. Next year we have all 5 OL starters returning and Gurshall.
-People look at that game and see we lost 24-10 and think we didn't have a chance, but that game did a 180 a complete horse shite call by the officials. It was only a one score game (17-10) in the 4th quarter. OSU was driving and they called a completely and utterly bogus PF call on Reshad Jones that put them in great field position where they would go on to ice it. Without that call, when we get the ball back who knows what happens.
Seriously, awful call
I thought Nay-Shawn Morino was on that team?
You are not going to convince me that y'all did not have at least once "latest greatest Herschel" on that team because you have one every single year.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:11 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Well this is clearly a boldfaced lie. Not a single Clemson fan thinks Clemson could win the SEC West, literally not one. Every Clemson fan on the planet was terrified of playing Texas A&M in a bowl game and obviously we wouldn't want any part of Alabama let alone South Carolina. We beat LSU maybe 6 out of 10 times if not 50-50.
No Clemson fan ever said that, you're just flaming.
F-you arse hat. If I was telling a bold-faced lie I would have said I gave a shite about your taterheads. As it were, I was trying to be nice while trying to give your team credit ... not your fans. Your fans are arse hats just like you. And yeah m-fer, some of your fans have called-in down here since your win over LSU and claimed they could have won the West ... they went straight down the line, "We match-up well against Bama, beat LSU, LSU beat everyone else in the West ... so Clemson could have won the West."
Heard it a bunch of times.
The boldfaced lie is you honestly claiming you'd beat LSU 6 out of 10 times. The boldfaced frickin' lie is you claiming SC never pressed Clemson's WRs which, in fact, we did in every single passing situation for your taterheads. The bold-faced lie is you thinking Murray is a vastly superior passer to Dylan Thompson when, in fact, Thompson put up a better average in games he started than Murray did ... and no, Thompson is not greatly mobile, in fact Murray is probably more mobile ... but Clemson's defense just sucks that badly. Now, if you wanna talk mobility then maybe, if you were not a bold faced liar, you'd mention the last two years of Conner Shaw running all over Clemson or you'd even mention Garcia running all over Clemson.
'Cause see, and tell me if I am lying ... it really doesn't matter how you do it against Clemson - chance are, if you are a decent team, a ranked team, you're probably going to find a way to get it done one way or the other. That's if you are FSU, South Carolina, I suspect Georgia will prove it to be so while LSU was the exception, not the rule, when it comes to beating the taterheads.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:31 pm to deeprig9
South Carolina beat Clemson this year because we were able to convert 3rd and long all night, plain and simple. It kept Clemson's offense off the field and wore out their defense.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:37 pm to scrooster
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I thought Nay-Shawn Morino was on that team?
Nah he only played in 07 and 08. He tore up OSU in his second career game.
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You are not going to convince me that y'all did not have at least once "latest greatest Herschel" on that team because you have one every single year.
You're one of the ones that gives your fanbase a bad name. You're talking shite out of the blue for no real reason, and nobody with a brain thinks there will ever be another Herschel. Thats only media and sidewalkers who say that crap.
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