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re: The SECRant Season Poll Results

Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:05 am to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:05 am to
One more comment and I'm out. Since the survey limited you to 10 responses, the proper way to design this study would to have included every single game played by every team in a survey question pool. Then have the respondents get 10 random matchups across all teams. That way, for the most part, positive and negative fan to team bias is basically eliminated. When you clicked the poll you would have gotten something that looked like this.

1. Georgia at Texas
2. Umass at Ms. State
3. Vandy at Mizzou
4. Tennessee at Arky
5. South Carolina at Alabama
6. Auburn at Alabama
7. LSU at Florida
8. Oklahoma at Texas
9. Kentucky at Ole Miss
10 NC State at Tennessee

Would the data been harder to crunch? Yes.
Would it have been correctly randomized? Also yes.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:06 am to
Okay, I appreciate the tip.

I'll definitely keep that in mind for next time.
Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:09 am to
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Many, many South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and Texas A&M responses were junked. All responses that had alternating wins and losses were thrown out.


So basically you threw out all of the results you didn’t like
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:10 am to
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So basically you threw out all of the results you didn’t like

No. I would love it if Vandy and South Carolina went 12-0, but that's not possible considering they play each other.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:10 am to
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LSU (182) 12-0




Well done guys
Posted by Mr Roboto
Seattle, WA
Member since Jan 2023
4781 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:14 am to
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Georgia (58)

At Alabama 80% W
At Texas 68% W
At Ole Miss 72% W


Yeah, this is BS. They’ll lose 1, if not 2 of these 3. Hardest SEC schedule they’ve had in years.
Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:17 am to
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No. I would love it if Vandy and South Carolina went 12-0, but that's not possible considering they play each other.
Thats not how these polls work. You take them one at a time. You either have to have people do all teams, or none at all if “both teams can’t go 12-0 since they play eachother”

Should’ve known this would be a sham after you went out of your way to say how much your feelings were hurt based on people’s votes
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:19 am to
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Should’ve known this would be a sham after you went out of your way to say how much your feelings were hurt based on people’s votes



You thought my feelings were hurt.

Learn this, Horny: On the Rant, you have a skin of iron or you get chased off the board. Or you remain because you're a retard and don't get it, like Monsusta.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12354 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:20 am to
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Should’ve known this would be a sham


Actually, you should have known that he did this for fun.
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
5339 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:20 am to
I for one find this poll to be scientific and now predict LSU will go undefeated.

Thanks for putting this together. Good work baw
Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:21 am to
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You thought my feelings were hurt.
I mean… yea. You literally had to start a thread to ask people to stop being mean to you

And you just admitted you threw out results that you personally didn’t like. Sham.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:23 am
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:27 am to
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Thanks for putting this together. Good work baw

Appreciate that.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29249 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:29 am to
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Thats not how these polls work. You take them one at a time. You either have to have people do all teams, or none at all if “both teams can’t go 12-0 since they play eachother”


Here's another point. If you're seeing invalid data for some teams, how do you know that there's not less obvious invalid data for other teams?
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:30 am to
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Actually, you should have known that he did this for fun.

Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:39 am to
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Here's another point. If you're seeing invalid data for some teams, how do you know that there's not less obvious invalid data for other teams?

I thought you said you were done.

There are no hard feelings, and I appreciate the advice and will definitely implement it in future surveys, but it is getting tiring hearing all of the issues with this survey that was taken of random internet people using a free account on SurveyMonkey.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:42 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29249 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:41 am to
Sorry. It's my ADD brain.

Having fun yet?
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:42 am to
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Sorry. It's my ADD brain.

Having fun yet?

Lol, I'm trying.

I'm thinking about reposting this survey so that the discussion can be about the results and not the methodology, though.

I blame you for me spamming the board.
Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
Member since Mar 2024
3087 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:44 am to
LSU - 12-0

You got yourself a real valid poll there, partner.
Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
Member since Mar 2024
3087 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:45 am to
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Actually, you should have known that he did this for fun.


Well sure, why else would he create a sham poll, if not for fun?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15525 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:56 am to
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I wonder why South Carolina was favored by 80% of respondents in every one of their matchups?


The same reason that LSU is 12-0.
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